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   Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 01:56:23 JST Evan Prodromou

   Thinking about VBScript.

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VBScript

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 01:56:22 JST Evan Prodromou

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     I don't know if modern Web developers are aware how much of a struggle it was to get to the HTML5 stack we use today. There was a loooooooooot of bullshit to wade through. VBScript, Java applets, browser plugins, Flash. It was a fight every step of the way.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 02:38:32 JST Evan Prodromou

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     The Web Standards Project was instrumental in this work. Their work has probably generated a trillion dollars in value for the planet and saved countless lives. Open standards fucking matter.

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Standards_Project

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     Scanner (scanner@apricot.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 03:09:57 JST Scanner

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     @evan I remember this one gaming site that uses a bunch of frames and a Java app in the top bar to control the whole rest of the frame.. and man.. getting that Java app to work and be signed and… >_<

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 03:09:57 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Scanner

     @scanner Oh, boy.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 03:33:24 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Dave Winer ☕️

     I wonder if @davew ever talks about some of the grotesque syndication products like PointCast and Castanet from the late 90s when he's discussing the history of RSS.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 04:08:04 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Dave Winer ☕️

     @davew TIL! Those are fascinating posts.

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     Dave Winer ☕️ (davew@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 04:08:05 JST Dave Winer ☕️

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     @evan

     https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ascripting.com+pointcast

     https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ascripting.com+castanet

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 04:11:15 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Dave Winer ☕️

     @davew I mean, TIL about the relationship of RSS to Pointcast. I already knew that you can look things up using the Google search engine, even if I don't always practice it.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 04:20:55 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • BreakingNerd

     @BreakingNerd I mean, that's a bad practice, sure, but it wasn't a commercial product by a single company foisted onto the Internet by gullible Web developers. Nobody had to download RealPlayer to get a table layout to work.

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     BreakingNerd (breakingnerd@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 04:20:56 JST BreakingNerd

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     @evan layout made with tables...

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 05:14:00 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Dave Winer ☕️

     @davew those ones I remember!

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     Dave Winer ☕️ (davew@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 05:14:01 JST Dave Winer ☕️

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     @evan

     i was very impressed with pointcast.

     that CNN on the Desktop piece ran in Wired.

     and they quoted it everywhere.

     it was a breakthrough. probably not the most elegant implementation, but wow what an idea.

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     Dave Winer ☕️ (davew@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 05:14:01 JST Dave Winer ☕️

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     @evan

     btw i was ready to help you too. shortly after i moved to nyc and got settled in i was going to come up to montreal for a visit, but somehow right at that moment you and a bunch of other familiar people were meeting privately with someone from google. i had seen that movie before too in many instances of the tech industry.

     i see the long journey you took from that, i think we might have gotten there quickly.

     did you write the software in identi.ca?

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     Dave Winer ☕️ (davew@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 05:14:01 JST Dave Winer ☕️

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     @evan

     btw --

     https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ascripting.com+identi.ca

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     Dave Winer ☕️ (davew@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 10:11:39 JST Dave Winer ☕️

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     @evan

     just responded to a comment from 17 years ago.

     edwin went on to found feedly.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 10:15:40 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Dave Winer ☕️

     @davew in wiki world we talk about the "WikiNow". This kind of timeless way that we can interact across days and decades. I love seeing it in blogs, too.

     http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/WikiNow