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   Abhiseck Paira (redstarfish@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 18:39:11 JST Abhiseck Paira
   Trisquel 12 is very close to being released. I think I'll install it in my 2019 laptop that's running Debian 12 right now.
   
   In this machine, wifi chip is freedom incompatible, but it has an Ethernet port. What I do now is, whenever I'm at home where I have access to Ethernet, I boot into the Linux-libre kernel. I also keep a copy non-free Linux kernel so that I can have wifi in case of emergencies.
   
   My guess is I can keep a similar setup. I can get the non-free linux kernel from Ubuntu archive. Or if necessary I can always build it from source.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 18:39:09 JST 翠星石

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     @redstarfish Why not get a freedom-respecting Wi-Fi card that you can just plug in, rather than falling into the trap of running proprietary software later?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 18:53:50 JST 翠星石

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     • Zergling_man
     @Zergling_man @redstarfish There is nothing wrong with GNUbooted laptops and desktops can have Wi-Fi cards too.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 18:53:51 JST Zergling_man

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     @Suiseiseki @redstarfish >laptop
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 19:19:13 JST 翠星石

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     • Zergling_man
     @Zergling_man @redstarfish Usb Wi-Fi cards always work.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 19:19:14 JST Zergling_man

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     @Suiseiseki @redstarfish The point is more, good luck finding a laptop that you can change the wifi card in, and a wifi card that fits it that isn't absolutely proprietary.
     Yeah, thinkpads exist, and that's probably not what he has (which is his second mistake).
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 19:20:15 JST 翠星石

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     • Zergling_man
     @menherahair @redstarfish @Zergling_man There is no Wi-Fi card whitelist on GNUbooted thinkpads and for absolutely proprietary thinkpads there are documented techniques where you can use another mPCIe port or tape over a pin to bypass the whitelist (plus there are patched BIOSs that remove the whitelist).
     
     You can get M.2 to mPCIe convertor cards - it's just a matter of finding a convertor that fits.
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     menherahair (menherahair@eientei.org)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 19:20:17 JST menherahair

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     • Zergling_man
     @Zergling_man @Suiseiseki @redstarfish I thought majority of laptops released after some point have wifi modules attached on m.2, and thinkpads are by far the hardest to replace because of the hardware whitelist on the port
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 19:23:56 JST 翠星石

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     • Zergling_man
     @menherahair @redstarfish @Zergling_man Plugging a usb card in is easier.
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     menherahair (menherahair@eientei.org)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 19:23:58 JST menherahair

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     • Zergling_man
     @Suiseiseki @redstarfish @Zergling_man I mean that's harder than take old card out, put new card in. and I think we've talked about buying ready gnubooted machines being a scam already
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 19:35:20 JST 翠星石

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     • Zergling_man
     @menherahair @redstarfish @Zergling_man That is one option.
     
     There is also quite tiny 1x1 cards available that won't get in the way; https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb (the model details are right there if you want to buy it without the markup).
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     menherahair (menherahair@eientei.org)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 19:35:22 JST menherahair

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     • Zergling_man
     @Suiseiseki @redstarfish @Zergling_man you mean this thing, every time you take the laptop out because it won't fit anywhere with it on