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   Max Leibman (maxleibman@beige.party)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 09:44:49 JST Max Leibman

   There are p-l-e-n-t-y of other reasons not to buy from Amazon, but I was reminded today of a big one: the last three electronic devices I purchased “new” were all very obviously used. A Surface Go 4 in a package with a broken seal and its frame slightly bent. An ereader with a fingerprint on the screen. And a laptop dock that was so scuffed and scratched and dinged-up that it had to have been somebody’s road unit (it even had the residue from a sticker—probably a corporate asset-tracking barcode—not fully pealed off of the bottom).

   Yes, you should stop using Amazon because they are exploiting workers and fueling fascism. But they are also clawing back the convenience and affordability that made you so reliant on them in the first place. They aren’t a good partner to do commerce with, even if there weren’t bad guys sitting at the top.

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     Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com) (mattl@social.coop)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 09:44:48 JST Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com)

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     @maxleibman These were all sold by Amazon itself?

     Last summer when I did my big train journey, a few items I bought from Amazon just showed up broken but they were quick to offer a refund and didn't want the thing back. That's a good indicator that they know it's crap.

     I'd be interested in what alternatives people who don't drive use for getting things like toilet paper delivered.

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     Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com) (mattl@social.coop)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 09:53:18 JST Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com)

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     @maxleibman "Fulfilled by Amazon" is the new "proudly serving Starbucks" -- maybe Seattle just likes this kind of nonsense.

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     Max Leibman (maxleibman@beige.party)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 09:53:19 JST Max Leibman

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     • Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com)

     @mattl A mix. A couple were Amazon proper, one was a third party, one third party “fulfilled by Amazon.”

     Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com) repeated this.
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     Andrés (personal views) (amunizp@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 11:08:37 JST Andrés (personal views)

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     • Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com)

     @mattl @maxleibman

     Toilet paper delivered home?
     Who gives a crap? https://us.whogivesacrap.org/

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     Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com) (mattl@social.coop)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 11:08:37 JST Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com)

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     • Andrés (personal views)

     @amunizp @maxleibman Will give them a look.

     Name is a big W.

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     Eliot Lash (eliot_l@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Jul-2025 05:30:31 JST Eliot Lash

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     • Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com)

     @mattl Not sure where you live but you could try https://www.instacart.com to order same-day delivery from local brick and mortar stores, some stores also offer delivery through their own websites and apps too.

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     Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com) (mattl@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Jul-2025 05:36:24 JST Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com)

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     • Eliot Lash

     @Eliot_L Yeah, I don't really think Instacart is a lot better. Unfortunately until more places start stocking the particular cat food my cat eats I'm reluctantly stuck with Amazon deliveries anyway.

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     Eliot Lash (eliot_l@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Jul-2025 07:49:51 JST Eliot Lash

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     • Dr. Matt Lee (1800www.com)

     @mattl for pet supplies I use my local brick and mortar pet stores as well as https://www.chewy.com/
     Well except for dog poop bags and auto cat litter trash bags. Those I still get from Amazon...