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   Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 00:50:42 JST Paul Cantrell

   ❝Cloudflare, along with a majority of the world's leading publishers and AI companies, is changing the default to block AI crawlers unless they pay creators for their content.❞

   Oh!

   ❝But that's just the beginning. Next, we'll work on a marketplace where content creators and AI companies, large and small, can come together.❞

   Oh.

   First quote sounds like a strike. Second quote sounds more like a company trying to situate itself as an unavoidable middle player who can control both sides of a market.
   https://mastodon.acm.org/@avandeursen/114799313365332691

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 01:20:42 JST Paul Cantrell

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     I liked the strike idea better.

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     Redish Lab (adredish@neuromatch.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 01:40:19 JST Redish Lab

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     @inthehands

     But isn't the AI-as-theft argument predicated on the idea that they are not paying their fair share? So if cloudflare can create such a marketplace, wouldn't that be a good thing?

     (Of course, this is ignoring the inevitable enshittification of the cloudflare monopoly.... So how do we ensure that the marketplace is fair and equitable?)

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 01:40:19 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Redish Lab

     @adredish
     > the inevitable enshittification of the cloudflare monopoly
     ☝️☝️☝️ that ☝️☝️☝️

     We’re fool if we put all our eggs in Cloudflare’s basket, even if the premise is a good one.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 01:56:07 JST Rich Felker

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     • Redish Lab

     @adredish @inthehands No. I don't consent to theft as long as the thief pays a middleman and the middleman pays a fraction of that back to me. Unless I intended something to be for sale, it's not for sale. Period.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 02:04:07 JST Rich Felker

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     • Redish Lab

     @adredish @inthehands We don't want control over selling price. We want "fuck you, it's not for sale".

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     Redish Lab (adredish@neuromatch.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 02:04:08 JST Redish Lab

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias @inthehands

     Good point. This market will require a process where the authors are able to control the selling-price of their work. Otherwise, it's being stolen, not sold.

     I wonder if cloudflare will do that. That's pretty complicated code,* but it is what the second part says.**

     * Wanna bet they're going to let AI write that code?🙄

     ** Whether it is what the second part _means_, is, of course, less clear. 😓

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     jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 06:05:54 JST jwz

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     @inthehands I am shocked, shocked to learn that CloudFlare is behaving unethically.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 06:05:54 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @jwz

     Now now, let’s be fair: they’re merely laying the groundwork for behaving unethically