@cjd We're a long wave of propaganda from young men but wanting to deliberately recreate Fullmetal Jacket's scene I think. Maybe we'll see l suicide helmets or collars in the next one.
Problem is, Americans are so well armed, so distrustful, and so non-compliant, that attempting a large scale mobilization has like a 2 or 3% chance of success and like a 75 or 80% chance of starting Le Révolution.
@cjd I legitimately think this is why they're flooding our country with foreigners. Get people in here who alsomt have the American Mindset, so to speak
@s2208@dsm@feralphilosophernc@cjd Yup. Everybody knows it. Everybody seems sad about it. They could avoid it if they'd just gut the federal government powers like it was supposed to be before Hamilton's coup.
@cjd@dsm@feralphilosophernc The interconnectedness of people groups is why a hard genocide won't happen in America with the present populations. Going back to my prior point, if they get enough people from "elsewhere" here, said people will have no qualms about being roused up against the heritage Americans of all flavors, particularly those of European stock.
The idea of a White unity in America has been emerging for a while and the race-communists on the left have been the biggest boon to it. 20 years ago, I never could have imagined the phrase "It's okay to be White" would be seen as some kind of "hate speech" (implying hate speech is real) or attack against others, but today it is and without reasonable explanation from anyone claiming such. To your point though, the dissident political sphere is full of people indirectly aligned with pro-White or White Nationalist ideals, and some of our beliefs are a lot more reasonable than others.
I don't think it's fair to force the Africans who have lived here for 400 years to leave. I would be perfectly fine giving them their own region in America, and keeping good terms with them as neighbors. I know that gets a lot of flack from some people, and I don't care. I would love it if America didn't have to balkanize, and if said balkanization didn't result in race wars, but everything is conjecture. My crystal ball broke the day I finished college.
You can't just say "ethnic cleansing" and expect me to know what you mean. But even if you're only talking about deporting or exterminating all descendants of African slaves, you're still looking at something like 50 million people who are 100% ready to kill you over that.
Then you've got probably another 30 million people who have black friends and will vehemently oppose it. Then add in the business leaders who have black employees and they're gonna bankroll whoever is willing to fight you.
And whose gonna have your back? You think the Irish, Italians, or Mexicans are gonna give a shit about your "ethnostate"? You're gonna go to the cucked Germans and try to get Tim Walz on board?
You keep posting these ideas that are so fucking stupid that anyone with a triple-digit IQ already knows the shit's never gonna happen. Even COMMUNISM is less retarded than your shit. Not that it has any better chance of working, but at least it *sounds* utopian enough to convince a bunch of lazy morons to support it because they don't want to work.
Every time I talk to a White Nationalist, I become more convinced that White Nationalism has no chance of going absolutely anywhere.
I don't think that will work because the US is so diverse. Irish, Italian, Mexican and Blacks should basically be considered as separate nations on the same soil.
You might imagine you're gonna get rid of them all, but you're not. They'll get rid of you long before you ever get started.
What America needs is honest and steady-handed governance. It definitely does not have that now, and hasn't since at least the 1970s, but using a fake "war" to exterminate illegals who were secretly imported en masse by the previous administration is just more shitty governance.
Drafting illegals is something I've thought about a lot, but the problem is that effective war-fighting requires a specific skill set that is present in the culture and breeding of warrior peoples.
So generally speaking, trying to fight a war using random migrants from poor nations that have no war-fighting past is basically just a really costly way to commit genocide and lose.
Good points all around. I think what's realistic is defacto segregation, and in particular segregation based on voluntary association rather than race (as determined by a government official).
Just letting people create communities and decide amongst themselves who can join solves a hell of a lot of problems, and the problems it doesn't solve, it decentralizes - so those people can deal with them inside their own community.
As I've said before, I think there's a lot of potential in just making landlords insure their tenants against criminality, because the landlords will then make the tenants buy insurance, and people who are unruly will just not be able to afford the insurance to live in a polite neighborhood. Also this kind of thing has the potential to actually gain adoption, unlikes a lot of completely pie-in-the-sky stuff.
Yes he's wrong, we covered this before and he devolved into insults and anachronisms, predictably. The real issue is disagreement; this won't be solved with rental insurance.
@cjd@dsm@feralphilosophernc It would, on paper, work, but current US laws would make that illegal because of "disparit impact". You can't even descriminate in real granular ways once you break a certain size (usually about three or four states), even with substitute metrics. It's shocking that they still allow men to pay more for car insurance, despite our tendency to drive faster and less frequent but more damaging accidents.
Reasonable, but we covered selection and how that's addressed with existing laws -- a good enough idea to steal, cjd had zero issues stealing explicit/emergent. Gosh.
I'm actually like 50% Irish, born in Massachusetts, and I have no problem saying that:
1. Massachusetts imported the Irish so they could conquer the south in the Civil War, but for this they paid with their soul. Irish rule Massachusetts, and will for the foreseeable future.
2. Irish Americans don't give a shit about some white ethno-state and never will. Irish don't even give a shit about making Massachusetts not a steaming pile of shit. You give good union jobs to the Paddies and you get the votes, if you don't, you don't.
I have no reason to think Italians, Mexicans, etc are any different.
@cjd@dsm@feralphilosophernc@mitchconner People will actually care about you if you treat them right. One weird truck to good governance (globalists HATE THIS)!!!
To your second point, nobody cares about it until they have to. The reason it's disproportionately young men and their fathers who are drawn to the idea of any type of "White solidarity" is because it wasn't an issue for the older ones who grew up in either a society that didn't hate them or was actively taking care of them (your second point). The Irish political machine is pretty strong in Boston and greater New England, which is good. I started caring when I was passed over in favor of DEI hires for promotions or specific jobs, but once I had kids I became more conscious of making sure they grew up in a society that didn't codify them as second class citizens. I have never cared about "supremacy". I only wanted fairness, and I don't wish harm on others. If fairness is equated with "White supremacy" by some on the left, then by that metric I am a White supremacist.