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econ 101
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@jeffcliff @JoeBravo77 In the abstract, you start solving a lot of problems with less people. Housing, wage stagnation, pollition— all of these decrease. You'd think they'd be happy with it. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the Marxists.
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@JoeBravo77 ^ this is exactly the kind of shit economics that marxists take issue with.
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@Escoffier @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77
wages don't necessarily go up if you get rid of the people who fight for higher wages :ElainaSmh:
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@jeffcliff @Escoffier @JoeBravo77 True, but you're also getting rid of the people who push for unlimited immigration, so the biggest impediment to wage stagnation is removed. We had unions before we had communists, and they were actually decent then.
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@BowsacNoodle @jeffcliff @JoeBravo77 Wages go up
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@jeffcliff @JoeBravo77 This problem was solved decades ago friend. Much like car batteries, you can just throw the communists into the ocean.
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@BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 and of course causing problems too (ie the force of impact after a drop of the height of a helicopter)
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@jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 I will let this credentialed fellow explain..
Jared Bernstein, member of Biden’s Council of Economic Advisors: “One thing we learned in the 1990s was that a surefire way to reconnect the fortunes of working people at all skill levels, immigrant and native-born alike, to the growing economy is to let the job market tighten up. A tight job market pressures employers to boost wage offers to get and keep the workers they need. One equally surefire way to sort-circuit this useful dynamic is to turn on the immigrant spigot every time some group’s wages go up.”
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@reallyangry @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 >o will work for half my wage or less a
it's almost like...there's a bigger world with bigger problems that you're ignoring that might cause such displacement of labour. Good luck with living in ignorance of that
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@jeffcliff @JoeBravo77 @reallyangry >there's a bigger world with bigger problems that you're ignoring
If you would please consult the graph...
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@jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 jeff it really isn't hard to understand that if i a simple worker at bob's cog factory have my income tanked because bob has hired a load of immigrants who will work for half my wage or less and i can't feed my family, then i honestly don't care how mcuh pain the immigrant labor faces in the pursuit of my livlihood back.
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@jeffcliff @JoeBravo77 @reallyangry >i'd be the first on the helicopter i would be opposed to such things
Please, you wouldn't even be in the first half.
>understanding too much economics is a waste of human capital
If they understood things seriously (emphasis on seriously), they're probably too far gone or more likely not as smart as you're giving them credit for. Capitalism is just the other side of Marxism and both are gay and retarded but one leverages while the other fights against human instinctual behaviors.
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@reallyangry @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 obviously especially since i'd be the first on the helicopter i would be opposed to such things
but it's not just a moral objection, it's an economic one: throwing people out of airplanes for the crime of understanding too much economics is a waste of human capital that could be going towards both increasing efficiency *and* bettering working conditions for workers
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@jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 well please elaborate rather than spouting pithy platitudes that explain NOTHING
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@jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 i've read all your reponses in this thread and you basically say nothing. other than a moral objection to killing people
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@jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 ALRIGHT JEFF IS IN FAVOR OF SHOOTING ILLEGAL MEXICANS ON SIGHT
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@reallyangry @jeffcliff @JoeBravo77 They could be carrying COVID into America. They've already brought chagas disease and malaria. Super cool that we now have that in the USA again.
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@reallyangry @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 > , then the glut of low skilled migrant labor being removed from my nation shouldn't be a problem for you
That is an internal problem, and not really my concern as long as you're not murdering people(other than the ones who are crossing international borders during this ongoing pandemic) or something.
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@jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 if you're not morally opposed to execution, then the glut of low skilled migrant labor being removed from my nation shouldn't be a problem for you. but let's be honest it's not just low skilled labor, despite jeets inferiority at tech work, they're hired in droves to do it because and only because they'll work for peanuts, i guess the issues that crop up down the line from their dogshit code still costs less than hiring competent people.
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@jeffcliff @JoeBravo77 @reallyangry "Conservatives" understand "liberals" far better than the other way around. The grift problem is very real, but it's evidence of systematic bias against conservatives since they're so desperate for something to remind them that they're sane in a world that constantly gaslights them.
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@BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 @reallyangry No kidding, next thing you're going to notice is that conservatives don't notice when they are being scammed by obvious grifters who take advantage of their local trust.
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@reallyangry @jeffcliff @JoeBravo77 The "guh-new" key
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@jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 on windows, you know if you push shift + winkey + s it makes a selection box where you can grab an image of what's inside the box into your clipboard
one of the first things i looked for was a tool like that for linux, and forums eventually lead me to find "spectacle" which was similar but the functionality was a sidegrade, well they updated to function practically similarly.
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@jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 i dunno what linux calls the windows key my keyboard still has a windows logo on it cuz it's old as fuck.
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@jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 btw jeff, spectacle my "snippet-like" tool for linux, updated to be more like what i was used to on windows, it's really cool.
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@reallyangry @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 the what now
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@reallyangry @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 when i first bought my current computer it came with a keyboard with a linux penguin key instead of a windows logo key
but i've swapped it out for a regular one
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@BowsacNoodle @jeffcliff @JoeBravo77
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@taylan @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 @jeffcliff But the thing is he's 100% correct no matter what his views might be
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@Escoffier @BowsacNoodle @JoeBravo77 @jeffcliff
Ah yes, Jared Bernstein. Famous Marxist, that one.
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@JoeBravo77 @reallyangry @jeffcliff idk if this was you I replied to or who it was, but I can't see your comments since you moved to threads or whatever.
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