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Crispy Branzino (nimbius666@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 30-Jun-2025 00:18:58 JST
Crispy Branzino
@gimulnautti @notsoloud @randahl imo the current trend in the war is too asymmetrical for profiteering.
Ukraines masterclass in repurposing soviet era recon drones with high explosives and directly targeting Russia's nuclear deterrent in a highly denied airspace is evidence enough.- Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: likes this.
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notsoloud (notsoloud@expressional.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Jun-2025 00:19:00 JST
notsoloud
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I don't think the war is expensive enough to threaten EU financial stability. Russia, on the other hand might soon need a saving knight.
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Toni Aittoniemi (gimulnautti@mastodon.green)'s status on Monday, 30-Jun-2025 00:19:00 JST
Toni Aittoniemi
@notsoloud @randahl Unless Trump finds a way to finance Russia, and ignite the already ongoing shadow war they are waging against the EU.
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Toni Aittoniemi (gimulnautti@mastodon.green)'s status on Monday, 30-Jun-2025 00:19:01 JST
Toni Aittoniemi
@randahl Another factor in US hinderance in entering the war in Ukraine could be self-serving:
They might simply be holding back, waiting for Ukraine & EU to go into more and more debt.
Once the debt is deep enough, USA could ride in with cheap credit (but with ties) as ”saviour”, binding the Eurozone and Ukraine as clients of American financial institutions for decades, transferring ownership of profits and control without firing a shot, saving their own economy in the process
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Toni Aittoniemi (gimulnautti@mastodon.green)'s status on Monday, 30-Jun-2025 00:19:02 JST
Toni Aittoniemi
@randahl Unfortunately far too many rich people in NATO would like to keep doing business with Russia.
Many Russians specialise in handling business these people don’t like the word getting out that they’re doing.
The money of these influential people ultimately pays for political campaigns of politicians, even inside NATO.
Therefore Russia continues to enjoy a favoured status even among NATO members, whose military might otherwise overshadows that of Russia’s many times over.
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Randahl Fink (randahl@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Jun-2025 00:19:03 JST
Randahl Fink
Russia is 144 million people who spend 7 percent of GDP on military — most of which gets continuously destroyed in the Ukraine war.
NATO is a coalition of 973 million people who will now spend 5 percent of GDP on increasing it's military — while not at war.
Only a madman would think those odds are in Russia's favor.
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ProfT (proft@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 30-Jun-2025 01:58:23 JST
ProfT
@randahl in Russia that is 7 % from 14000 USD GDP per capita. Eu has 44000 per capita and us has 80000 per capita. So the difference is even bigger.