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   BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jun-2025 22:55:11 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

   • Shadowman311
   These same people think Catholics view the Pope this way. It's always been projection.
   
   RT: https://poa.st/objects/3807d2de-af11-4b92-919f-d610af8f6b4c
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jun-2025 23:51:01 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     >officially infallible
     Only ex cathedra statements. There are very few of those made ever. The premise of it is a bit odd to me still.
     >they're all just trying to pretend he's not there.
     Because he's just Rome's Bishop. I don't live in Rome. The traditional view is (was) that he was first among equals, analogous to the Speaker Of The House in Congress. Much like that analogy, people tend to fall in line with the speaker. Over time and (some would argue) by necessity, that changed to a more prominent role that involved its own bureaucracy and other measures.
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     vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jun-2025 23:51:02 JST vic

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     I can't figure out what's going on with modern Catholicism, though.

     Their official leader is officially infallible but also a massive faggot and it's like they're all just trying to pretend he's not there.

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     M. Night Charlemayne (deerblood@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 00:46:10 JST M. Night Charlemayne

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     I live making fun of Protestants as much as the next guy but this is definitely a uniquely American brand of Baptists and evangelicals
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     • M. Night Charlemayne
     I grew up in that milieu hearing it and thinking and even repeating it myself. I don't particularly enjoy making fun of "Protestants" since that's as broad of a term as "Christian" (although arguably because of them, but that's not my point). I guess my point is being online in the year of our Lord 2025, I don't see any excuse for people to assume they know my church's beliefs better than me. They know the Jack Chick version of Catholicism, and they know next to nothing of the Eastern church. Most often it's a priori arguments:
     >I am [this] therefore I must find out bad things about [this] to justify why I'm something else and [this] is wrong.
     You can just not be Catholic or Orthodox and still follow Christ and not stir shit about things you don't understand. We would all prefer that.
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     M. Night Charlemayne (deerblood@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 01:01:35 JST M. Night Charlemayne

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     Catholicism and Orthodoxy are significantly more complex than the two denominations of southern low church protestantism than I mentioned
     
     Catholics know protestant belief wayyyy better than pastor Billy Wayne Gary Wayne and his congregation at Tree Street Southern Baptist Church of Zion know of Catholicism
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 01:19:03 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     Possible. America has the individualism and Locke-ian mindset kind of built in. To say that a real true permanent authority exists on this Earth is anathema to the American. As I'm typing this, I'm furling my brow at the thought because I question if the RCC is worthy of holding that mantle at the moment.
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     I’ve always seen it as an insecurity. A fear that if they can’t prove the Papists wrong, their own minister’s authority is nonexistent. I can understand why they would worry about that in some subconscious level
     
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 01:33:04 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     • M. Night Charlemayne
     For sure. I can make an argument that Catholicism is too complex pretty easily by that same logic though. I actually think Orthodoxy is less complicated because it doesn't have as much of a tradition of rational exposition a la Aquinas. Not that they're grug either, but every church father I read is less concerned with autistic tier complex arguments and their rationality. I don't mean to belittle Aquinas either; he wrote incredible things with great depth.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 01:43:54 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     I can't speak to Catholic or Pope as I'm not Catholic but dispensationalism has burrowed into Evangelical Christianity to a degree that is disturbing. The Israel and Jew worship is off the charts. Several of the biggest seminaries are openly dispensational including Dallas seminary and Moody.
     
     And crazy part is is is wildly unScripgural. There is no Scriptural basis whatsoever. And it was created in 1850 and I'll hear pastors say there can be no new doctrines and then preach on dispensationalism
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 01:45:32 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     I got pushback when I shared that Tucker Ted Cruz interview with a friend of mine who grew up Baptist around that point. He doesn't like Israel but thinks Tucker's critique of Cruz over his dispensationalism was unwarranted. It's insane.
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     Wrath (eiswald@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 03:11:43 JST Wrath

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     Considering that he seems perfectly okay with tens of millions of people being killed and displaced because of his objectively wrong heretical beliefs, I think it's perfectly warranted.
     
     At what point do these evangelical death cultist retards realize that the deceivers that the bible warns them about are paying their pay checks and dragging their sons and daughter into stupid fucking wars.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 03:11:43 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     Never because their paychecks depend on NOT noticing ever. The modern Churches are no longer fit for purpose
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     Jonny (jonny@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 03:11:46 JST Jonny

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     I can only imagine the split that's happening in the MAGA community right now.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 03:14:51 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     They read things like Daniel which talks of the abomination of desolation as foretelling of Revelation and the Antichrist. It's not that full of holes as a view, but it requires specific interpretation that wasn't used by most of church history ad well as being unaware of some of the history of the early church and what happened to Christians. Basically if you're unaware (ignorant, but not wilfully) of historical concepts that make amillennialism a more understandable position, it's easy to get dispensationalism.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 03:14:52 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     I can't understand how the average Christian never manages to stumble over the dozens of verses that BTFO dospensationalism hard. I was at a Bible study yesterday and the subject of dispensationalism came up. The leader of the group wasn't familiar so I gave him the nugget he immediately flipped his Bible open and found about 12 verses that just bodied dispensationalism
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     EssentialUtinsil :njp: (essentialutinsil@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 04:16:17 JST EssentialUtinsil :njp:

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     randy fine is a jew, they're not exactly known for washing their hands a lot
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     Bridgelurker Kip (jedkron1248@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 04:16:17 JST Bridgelurker Kip

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     Not only a jew, a TURBO jew. Citing his actions and blaming evangelicals (for all their faults) is faulty targeting.

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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 04:56:54 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @Escoffier @Jonny @Shadowman311 Vance and Trump ran as the anti war ticket. Yeah snide :fellforitagainaward: goes here, but obviously people aren't going to be happy about this. I would prefer Israel not be allowed to do this, but if they're doing it I don't want America involved in even the slightest capacity. It's disgusting.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 04:56:55 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     I just read that only 16 % of Americans and 19% of MAGA folks support the Israel adventure.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:02:07 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @Escoffier @Shadowman311 But yet, they do. That these people ignore Paul is insane. Paul said he would give his own life for the jews if it would make them see their error in rejecting Christ, but they wouldn't if he had.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:02:08 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     Exactly. I think the idea of the dual track is much harder to defend.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:18:03 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     @BowsacNoodle @Shadowman311 The entire book.of Roman's refutes dispensationalism hard. Paul clearly states the Church is Israel and essentially every claim of dispensationalism is clearly refuted. It is in other places as well as simply as there is no other name other than Jesus that we will find salvation
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:26:57 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     @reallyangry @BowsacNoodle @Shadowman311 That is the best response. We can't save people or force them to do anything. God can
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:26:58 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     @reallyangry @BowsacNoodle @Shadowman311 Of course. Funny how often that isnt the case. I wonder why?
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     annoyed (reallyangry@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:26:58 JST annoyed

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     @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle @Shadowman311 i sometimes find myself taken aback at low levels of devotion i see from some people who claim to be Christian i ain't trying to gossip i'm just saying it surprises me cuz i've basically thrown the reigns to Jesus at this point.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:26:59 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     @reallyangry @BowsacNoodle @Shadowman311 Absolutely unfortunately as God himself noted they are a stiff necked people
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     annoyed (reallyangry@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:26:59 JST annoyed

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     @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle @Shadowman311 point is, i can literally understand wishing your family, your people your friends etc, would come to Christ desperately.
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     annoyed (reallyangry@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:27:00 JST annoyed

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     @BowsacNoodle @Escoffier @Shadowman311 well paul wanted his kin to see the light, shit i can relate to that.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:27:12 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @reallyangry @Escoffier @Shadowman311 It helps more than we will ever know. There are people who have passed on who tested for me to return to faith. I am sure I right be here if not for them
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     @reallyangry @BowsacNoodle @Shadowman311 Yep same here. There are also people ive prayed for who were saved
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     @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle @Shadowman311 i've prayed for a lot of people (humble brag LOL) but i dunno how many it helped lol.
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     annoyed (reallyangry@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:27:14 JST annoyed

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     @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle @Shadowman311 i've seen family members i wasn't sure was saved die, and some i knew weren't saved but i couldn't have ever helped them, die