Alan Turing died by suicide on 7 June 1954. Turing was convicted of gross indecency in 1952 and given a choice between imprisonment and probation. His probation would be conditional on his agreement to undergo hormonal physical changes designed to reduce his libido. Turing's conviction led to the removal of his security clearance and barred him from continuing with his consultancy for GCHQ. He was denied entry into the United States after his conviction.
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iamBullivant (bullivant@mastodon.ie)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jun-2025 18:01:14 JST iamBullivant
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Xenotar (xenotar@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jun-2025 20:47:07 JST Xenotar
@bullivant Dark Ages (which is returning)
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Jess👾 (jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jun-2025 17:46:43 JST Jess👾
If there was actually some "middle ground" that everyone accepted, I might be willing to negotiate. But when one side of the negations is literally calling for trans genocide and will ultimately accept nothing else, then fuck it. My position is 100% equality or bust.
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HarriettMB (harriettmb@beige.party)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jun-2025 17:46:43 JST HarriettMB
@JessTheUnstill @bullivant The middle ground is ‘equality’ There is no other negotiation and there should never be. It doesn’t matter if it’s a discussion of women’s rights, disabled persons rights, mens rights, single parents rights, rights for those with learning difficulties, gay rights, lesbian rights, rights for immigrants or visitors, trans people’s rights - everyone is entitled to those same rights. Once any government or society starts down a road of less rights for some people, it’s a quick step to less rights for more people -
Remove autonomy so women can’t control their reproductive choice, but not from men - only from women…
Remove options to wear a headscarf - women in some religions are singled out…
Remove options for choosing your partner - men and women are singled out, and forced or arranged marriages become ‘normal’
Remove options for single parents - their children are take away and adopted elsewhere, or put in some kind of training school/institution - Racism & religions and colonial occupiers still do this.
Remove options for gay people, and revisit the horrors inflicted on Alan Turing again. The UK government has even suggested some kind of chemical castration for specific types of offender [cheaper than incarcerating them, I guess]
Remove options for trans women [hardly anyone is mentioning trans men - but the same nightmare applies for them] - no sport participation, no toilet facilities, reduced employment options, no treatment in hospital which is allowed if you are not trans but need the same perfectly legal and approved drugs.
Equality is the only middle ground. Everything else is literally Nazi and we’ve been there and seen that. -
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HarriettMB (harriettmb@beige.party)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jun-2025 17:46:45 JST HarriettMB
@bullivant Turing was an amazing (and gay) man who saved the world then from Nazi rule with his work. He was treated abominably, with horrific cruelty and destroyed by hate because of his sexuality. It’s so shocking that our governments have returned to mistreating people via recent SC ruling wilfully misinterpreted by the ‘equalities’ & human rights commission. In yesterday’s papers a columnist wrote that trans people should accept perceived reduced rights. #TransEquality