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   Jason Gorman (jasongorman@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 31-May-2025 03:50:07 JST Jason Gorman

   What makes LLMs work isn't deep neural networks or attention mechanisms or vector databases or anything like that.

   What makes LLMs work is our tendency to see faces on toast.

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     ggdupont (gdupont@framapiaf.org)'s status on Monday, 02-Jun-2025 23:05:00 JST ggdupont

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     @jasongorman
     There is a large research corpus in human cognition which studies how people think and how our thinking can be (easily) fooled.

     It is usually completely ignored by AGI fanboys (so it's easier to make grand claim about artificial cognition)

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     circfruit (circfruit@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 02-Jun-2025 23:05:01 JST circfruit

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     @gdupont @jasongorman I didn’t know there’s a word for that 🤨

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     ggdupont (gdupont@framapiaf.org)'s status on Monday, 02-Jun-2025 23:05:02 JST ggdupont

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     100%
     I've been telling this for a while now.
     Our tendency for pareidolia goes way beyond just seeing faces. We're desesperately trying to connect other intelligent beings...

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     JWcph, Radicalized By Decency (jwcph@helvede.net)'s status on Monday, 02-Jun-2025 23:05:25 JST JWcph, Radicalized By Decency

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     @jasongorman No, seriously - that's exactly what it is & it's a mechanism exploited by charlatans since always: https://softwarecrisis.dev/letters/llmentalist/

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     Krypt3ia (krypt3ia@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 02-Jun-2025 23:06:41 JST Krypt3ia

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     @jasongorman Digital Jesus toast.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 02-Jun-2025 23:08:02 JST Rich Felker

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     • Krypt3ia

     @krypt3ia @jasongorman My toast just gets Calvary not Jesus. 😂

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jun-2025 00:51:59 JST feld

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     • JWcph, Radicalized By Decency
     @jwcph @jasongorman I've never had a piece of toast with a face on it write hundreds of lines of code for me that actually works because I talked at it tho
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     Jason Gorman (jasongorman@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jun-2025 02:07:36 JST Jason Gorman

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     • feld

     @feld @jwcph Going by the hard evidence, nobody's had an LLM do that, either. Not without them fixing it.

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jun-2025 02:07:36 JST feld

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     • JWcph, Radicalized By Decency
     @jasongorman @jwcph what do you mean? I tell it that it must pass the test case, pass the formatter, linter, and static analysis... and then it emitted code and executed what I asked and produced a working result that passed the test case
     
     it automatically reads the results of the formatter, linter, compiler, static analysis, and tests cases and corrects any errors it encounters
     
     if you don't give it thorough instructions it will produce garbage. so just give it the same guidance you would a jr dev along with examples of best practices
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jun-2025 03:36:29 JST feld

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     • JWcph, Radicalized By Decency
     @jwcph @jasongorman why would I lie? I have literally nothing to gain by convincing someone that you *can* coerce these tools into doing something useful
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     JWcph, Radicalized By Decency (jwcph@helvede.net)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jun-2025 03:36:31 JST JWcph, Radicalized By Decency

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     • feld

     @feld @jasongorman Nobody believes you, dude. Let it go.

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jun-2025 04:06:11 JST feld

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     • JWcph, Radicalized By Decency
     @jwcph @jasongorman do you think spreading these lies will really make these tools disappear or something? what a strange obsession
     
     they'll still be around 5 years from now. they're not going anywhere.
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     JWcph, Radicalized By Decency (jwcph@helvede.net)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jun-2025 04:06:12 JST JWcph, Radicalized By Decency

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     • feld

     @feld @jasongorman - and yet you're still trying...

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     CapitalB (capitalb@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jun-2025 00:55:58 JST CapitalB

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     • feld

     @jasongorman @feld @jwcph

     Untrue.

     https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/

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