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    EU OS (eu_os@eupolicy.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 10:12:40 JST EU OS EU OS

    6 days until #EU_OS at Paris #HackDays: EU OS is a so-called atomic operating system that offers interruption free software updates thanks to #bootc (bootable container) technology. While people work, bootc downloads and installs unnoticeable to the user the update. After the next computer restart (trigged by the user), EU OS switches to the new version. If something breaks, the user can roll back. 1/2

    #Linux #DigitalSovereignty #Microsoft #Windows #Trump #Khan #Tariffs #sysadmin #endof10

    In conversation about 12 days ago from eupolicy.social permalink

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      Linux Is Best (linux@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 10:12:37 JST Linux Is Best Linux Is Best
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      @rriemann@chaos.social @eu_os@eupolicy.social

      That's great, but it is incorrect.

      You want something outside US Jurisdiction? https://codeberg.org/Linux-Is-Best/Outside_Us_Jurisdiction/src/branch/main/Operating_System.md

      In conversation about 12 days ago permalink

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        Outside_Us_Jurisdiction - Digital Service Providers outside the jurisdiction of the United States of America.
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      Robert Riemann 🇪🇺 (rriemann@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 10:12:38 JST Robert Riemann 🇪🇺 Robert Riemann 🇪🇺
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      @Linux @eu_os

      Please check on this matter:

      https://eu-os.eu/faq#sovereignty

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      Linux Is Best (linux@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 10:12:39 JST Linux Is Best Linux Is Best
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      @eu_os@eupolicy.social

      But unless you hard fork, or start something independent - You are still subject to USA shenanigans, if the upstream is American.

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      Robert Riemann 🇪🇺 (rriemann@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 10:12:41 JST Robert Riemann 🇪🇺 Robert Riemann 🇪🇺
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      @Linux @eu_os

      So to have a debate on #DigitalSovereignty, the definition is of course important and I have no specific one to offer, because it is a difficult topic.

      Obviously, the (implied) local jurisdiction is part of your definition.

      How meaningful is this if all countries wanted to be digital sovereign? Think of horizontal projects such as systemd/kernel.

      Currently, money and experts are rare and investments must be strategic. #EU_OS cannot fork everything.

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      Linux Is Best (linux@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 10:12:42 JST Linux Is Best Linux Is Best
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      @rriemann@chaos.social @eu_os@eupolicy.social

      I have provided a list of operating systems that would just fine for people living in South America, Africa, etc. " Your proposals seem to promote protectionism."YES -- Just as you would protect yourself from using an operating system reliant on China or Russia, I think you should protect yourself from an operating system reliant on the United States. You'll notice, I do not recommend Deepin Linux, for example, the same way you do not.

      #EU_OS #Europe #SouthAmerica #Africa #Asia #Linux

      In conversation about 12 days ago permalink
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      Robert Riemann 🇪🇺 (rriemann@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 10:12:43 JST Robert Riemann 🇪🇺 Robert Riemann 🇪🇺
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      @Linux @eu_os

      You write further "you want to be outside US jurisdiction?" It sounds as if I have written this somewhere. Did I?

      Your proposals seem to promote protectionism. I like to find an approach that also works for South America/Africa/etc.

      How many legal entities does the Linux kernel project require? One per continent? One per country?

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      Linux Is Best (linux@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 10:12:45 JST Linux Is Best Linux Is Best
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      @rriemann@chaos.social @eu_os@eupolicy.social

      The mindset behind it is incorrect.

      You want to be outside Us Jurisdiction? Notice: The nature of open source software means contributors of code, financial support, and repository mirrors, may come from anywhere, world-wide. This list focuses on the organization or group, and their registered jurisdiction, or if not registered, their implied jurisdiction.https://codeberg.org/Linux-Is-Best/Outside_Us_Jurisdiction/src/branch/main/Operating_System.md

      ReactOS, is not the only one listed, but since you bring them up current ReactOS is one distro that uses GitHub, but they can leave GitHub. Fedora, cannot escape the USA.

      #EU_OS #UsJurisdiction

      In conversation about 12 days ago permalink
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      Robert Riemann 🇪🇺 (rriemann@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 10:12:45 JST Robert Riemann 🇪🇺 Robert Riemann 🇪🇺
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      @Linux @eu_os

      I think it would be helpful if in your text on your codeberg account, you introduce the problem better that you identified and how you think it should be solved.

      I understand that you prefer if a legal entity is registered in the EU. I tell you that Microsoft has Microsoft Ltd. in Dublin. This alone is not enough to keep the exist costs low.

      A number of bright people from across the world have thought previously about these questions. The outcome is #almalinux and #RockyLinux.

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      Robert Riemann 🇪🇺 (rriemann@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 10:12:46 JST Robert Riemann 🇪🇺 Robert Riemann 🇪🇺
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      @Linux @eu_os

      What is incorrect? Can you be more specific?

      #ReactOS uses US-based Github.

      https://github.com/reactos/reactos

      I think that's ok if the exit cost is low. Same for #EU_OS. Once people start using it, they may consider to have a build server in the EU. Do we now need to change the architecture because of this? I do not think so.

      In conversation about 12 days ago permalink

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