For the Unicode "Couple with heart" emoji, you can have
* Person plus person 💑
* Man plus man 👨❤️👨
* Woman plus woman 👩❤️👩
* Woman plus man 👩❤️👨
But it's not possible to have
* Person plus man
* Man plus person
* Person plus woman
* Woman plus person
Why tho? :neocat_confused:
This is like, the strangest form of incidental NB not-exactly-erasure I've come across...
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Starlight ✨ (starlight@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Sunday, 25-May-2025 06:56:48 JST Starlight ✨
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Jesse 🇫🇷 (jessew@mk.cpluspatch.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-May-2025 06:56:47 JST Jesse 🇫🇷
@starlight@mk.absturztau.be it's kind of a bitch for programmers to render those emojis so they try to add as little of the "combination" ones as possible
i have no idea whether this is what happened, but it's definitely a thing -
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Jesse 🇫🇷 (jessew@mk.cpluspatch.com)'s status on Sunday, 25-May-2025 07:12:30 JST Jesse 🇫🇷
@starlight@mk.absturztau.be yeah that makes sense
Realistically I don't ever see Unicode adding more gender diversity options or even more queer flags, it's a lot of work for something that will be useless for most people (and as a bonus it's an easy target for right-wing backlash)
They're already struggling with skin color modifiers lol -
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Starlight ✨ (starlight@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Sunday, 25-May-2025 07:12:31 JST Starlight ✨
@jessew@mk.cpluspatch.com Mm, yeah that's true.
I have a sneaking feeling that person plus person here is just representing "neither of the two genders were provided" so it's treated as a blank default rather than a third gender option. -
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Starlight ✨ (starlight@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Sunday, 25-May-2025 07:57:12 JST Starlight ✨
@jessew@mk.cpluspatch.com Yeah, I mean on a technical level it feels to me like it should be easy to do the "person plus" couples since the person graphics already exist.
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Outfrost (outfrost@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 26-May-2025 13:42:58 JST Outfrost
@starlight @jessew I thought as much, but I checked - not quite.
The gender-neutral couple is just "couple with heart", single codepoint: U+1F491
Woman and man combinations were introduced in the next version, encoded like this:
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Outfrost (outfrost@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 26-May-2025 13:42:58 JST Outfrost
@starlight @jessew The emoji for "person" (U+1F9D1) was added later, in Unicode 10.0 / emoji 5.0, and it seems like existing combinations were not updated to include it.
While you can technically write:
U+1F9D1 U+200D U+2764 U+FE0F U+200D U+1F469
probably nothing is going to actually combine that into a "couple" emoji. -
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Starlight ✨ (starlight@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Monday, 26-May-2025 13:42:58 JST Starlight ✨
@outfrost@mastodon.social @jessew@mk.cpluspatch.com Very interesting, thanks for the info! :neobot_floof_cute:
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