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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 03:37:38 JST 翠星石

   • waltercool
   • waifu
   • GNU Tar
   @waltercool @freetar @waifu I literally linked to the proprietary software in Linux and to the "open source definition" (noting to check requirement 2) - certainly not GNU links.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 03:50:53 JST 翠星石

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     • GNU Tar
     @waltercool @freetar @waifu >Links to wikipedia.
     Wikipedia is known to be full of lies.
     
     Linux is the selected name of the Linux project, which was to develop a kernel and did little more than that.
     
     It's completely ludicrous and totally incorrect to refer to software that is not Linux, as "Linux", as no matter how popular an error is, that doesn't make it the reality.
     
     In no other OS has the whole OS been named after the name that was used to name the kernel.
     
     
     It's like getting a rose and calling it a pen - the rose will smell just as sweet, but people will proceed to try to write with the "pen" and get confused as hell.
     
     GNU only asks that you refer to GNU as GNU and Linux as Linux and when GNU is combined with Linux, to refer to it as; GNU/Linux, or GNU+Linux or GNU with Linux or LiGNUx or just GNU, as all of those would be correct names.
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     waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 03:50:54 JST waltercool

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     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu I can go forever getting different definitions about Linux.
     
     Only GNU cult members believes Linux only means a kernel because they want recognition using a GNU/whatever
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:03:15 JST 翠星石

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     • waltercool
     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @waltercool @freetar @waifu GNU predates Linux by years, therefore Linux is newspeak.
     
     You can run whatever proprietary coreutils, but I'll still be running GNU coreutils.
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     waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:03:16 JST waltercool

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     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu Yeah but again, I don't care about GNU, neither their Newspeak about Linux.
     
     And technically you are giving me good reasons to stand with the blue-hair transgender weirdos who make Rust replacements of GNU stuff.
     
     https://github.com/uutils/coreutils
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:07:07 JST 翠星石

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     • waltercool
     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @waltercool @freetar @waifu People demand that I call GNU, "Linux".
     
     GNU merely requests that people give credit where credit is due.
     
     I'm not demanding you to call GNU/Linux Stallmanx am I?
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     waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:07:08 JST waltercool

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     • GNU Tar
     @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu No one forces me to say Linux.
     
     GNU/cults want to force people to say GNU/Linux.
     
     We are not the same.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:15:20 JST 翠星石

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     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @waltercool @freetar @waifu glibc is part of GNU, thus that would be redundant.
     
     The operating system is GNU. One of the kernels is Linux.
     
     Another is GNU Linux-libre, another is GNU Hurd.
     
     Linux is not an OS, as it does not *operate* on its own - a fact.
     
     
     If you want to refer to the OS, correctly that would be GNU.
     
     But we're not spiteful curs and refuse to credit Linux for Linux - unlike the spiteful curs that refuse to credit GNU for GNU - thus the OS is called GNU/Linux.
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     waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:15:21 JST waltercool

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     • GNU Tar
     @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu You can call GNU/glibc or glibc. I don't care honestly.
     
     If you want to pay respects for GNU, feel free to do that, just don't expect others to follow or agree with you.
     
     The whole discussion here happens because you don't accept "Linux" as the Operative System, but instead you are claiming the Operative System is GNU/Linux.
     
     That doesn't make it correct or incorrect, that makes you forcing people to use the GNU/loser term
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     waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:25:42 JST waltercool

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     • GNU Tar
     @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu There is not a single place on the GPL license forcing you to add the name GNU prefix.
     
     That's why 99.999% of Linux users don't care about adding the GNU prefix. Not even major companies doing business with Linux.
     
     So at the end, this is just like some dude asking you to respect their pronouns.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:25:42 JST 翠星石

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     • waltercool
     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @waltercool @freetar @waifu >You didn't force us to give credit with a proprietary restriction, thus you don't deserve credit.
     
     Most GNU users who have never heard of GNU; https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-users-never-heard-of-gnu.html and consider themselves "Linux users", as they have been told it's "just Linux" and it was all written by Linus with some help.
     
     Major companies have admitted that they think they'll make more money if they don't give credit to GNU, thus they omit credit.
     
     It's like some dude asking you not to call him "Miss", as he's not a Miss.
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     Max Mustermann (maxmustermann@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:27:30 JST Max Mustermann

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     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu @waltercool GNU + Linux and that only if you are really autistic about Lunix. Otherwise its often in the Acronyms of some Programs (GNU Image Manipulation Program, GNU C Compiler, GNU GRand Unified Bootloader, GNU Nuclear Armed Terrorism, ETC).
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:27:30 JST 翠星石

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     • Max Mustermann
     • GNU Tar
     @maxmustermann @freetar @waifu @waltercool Yes GNU+Linux is correct too.
     
     Or if you prefer GNU with Linux. Or LiGNUx.
     
     In many cases Linux is of no relevance and really shouldn't be mentioned.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:36:13 JST 翠星石

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     • waltercool
     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @waltercool @freetar @waifu MIT released many licenses, some of them being proprietary.
     
     MIT expat is a terrible license, although it happens to be free.
     
     There are many BSD licenses, all terrible.
     
     
     I love licensing AGPLv3-or-later - cope and seethe.
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     waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:36:14 JST waltercool

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     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu My heart belong to MIT and BSD licenses, mostly.
     
     GPL since v3 is obscene.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:37:53 JST 翠星石

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     • waltercool
     • waifu
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     @waltercool @freetar @waifu If people think the GPLv3 "is obscene", they haven't read the GPLv2.
     
     Imagine believing that the GPLv2 wasn't written to defend the users freedom.
     
     The GPLv3 gives *more permissions* and fixes many freedom bugs and is all around a much better license.
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     waifu (waifu@mai.waifuism.life)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:38:20 JST waifu

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     @waltercool@pl.slash.cl @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @freetar@freesoftwareextremist.com MITYou may want to read Luke's take on cuck licenses
     https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/why-i-use-the-gpl-and-not-cuck-licenses/

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:40:02 JST 翠星石

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     • waltercool
     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @freetar @waifu @waltercool Read it; https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.en.html
     
     Read it now.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:42:32 JST lainy

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     • waltercool
     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @waifu @waltercool @Suiseiseki @freetar
     > being an IP cuck
     
     Sasuga luke
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:53:38 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • waltercool
     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @waifu @waltercool @Suiseiseki @freetar i don't care, I'll still use the bsd3 license
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:53:45 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @waltercool @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu same
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     waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:55:05 JST waltercool

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     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu You are free to use whatever license you want lol.
     
     On my side, part of my job is removing every single piece of software using GPL libraries because they are terrible for the software industry.
     
     So far so good by the way, thankfully the OpenSource community, including big tech, do very great software/libraries under MIT/Apache, and we contribute when possible,
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:55:08 JST 翠星石

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     • waltercool
     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @waltercool @freetar @waifu No GNU license says "open" it in.
     
     If your project is a mere aggregate, you are not required to provide the source code.
     
     It's only if you've made a derivative work that the whole lot must be provided under compatible terms (which are a hell of a lot better than the typical proprietary license, which disallows doing so totally).
     
     There is no requirement in any GNU license to expose the customers business to the internet.
     
     B2B can respect the other business's freedoms and both can choose not to publish the software on the internet.
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     waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:55:09 JST waltercool

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     • GNU Tar
     @waifu @Suiseiseki @freetar GPL licenses are terrible because they force you to make your projects opensouce too.
     
     When you are dealing with B2B is ridiculous to expose customer business to internet.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:55:33 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • waifu
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     @waltercool @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu your job is good
     i think a software company that does clean room implementation of gpl projects might be a good idea to start
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:55:45 JST 翠星石

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     • ICScaryThings
     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @icst @freetar @waifu @waltercool "All other non-permissive additional terms are considered "further restrictions" within the meaning of section 10. If the Program as you received it, or any part of it, contains a notice stating that it is governed by this License along with a term that is a further restriction, you may remove that term."
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     waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:55:46 JST waltercool

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     @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu v3 is terrible overall, It force people to share all their modifications to the original author.
     
     Being forced is not my definition of freedom.
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     ICScaryThings (icst@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:55:46 JST ICScaryThings

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     • waifu
     • GNU Tar
     @waifu @waltercool @Suiseiseki @freetar plain GPL is cucked too. +Nigger license or bust
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 04:57:35 JST 翠星石

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     @waltercool @freetar @waifu It's only a good thing that the proprietary masters cannot benefit from the free software that has no parallel.
     
     Free, copyleft libraries are great for the software industry.
     
     Unfortunately there are many suckers that are writing proprietary software for such businesses totally gratis.
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     waifu (waifu@mai.waifuism.life)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 05:01:48 JST waifu

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     @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @waltercool@pl.slash.cl @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @freetar@freesoftwareextremist.com nmp i am not the cuck lol

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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 05:03:44 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @waifu @waltercool @Suiseiseki @freetar same
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     waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 05:14:39 JST waltercool

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     @Suiseiseki @freetar @waifu I'm okay with FOSS when makes you do author recognition of your libraries. In the same way any Copyleft software works.
     
     I'm not okay when a FOSS software forces me to do my project FOSS and/or share whatever modification I do.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 05:14:39 JST 翠星石

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     @waltercool @freetar @waifu GNU/JIHAD AGAINST "FOSS"!!!!! FREE SOFTWARE.
     
     If you don't make a derivative work of a GPLv3-or-later library, there is nothing you need to do.
     
     You are not forced to shared your modifications to anyone - you can keep them private.
     
     It's unacceptable that you have the ability to take free software and turn it into proprietary software and attack people with it and the GPLv3-or-later rightfully says no.