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   Karsten Johansson (ksaj@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 13:50:29 JST Karsten Johansson

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   • Elias Mårtenson
   • Glitzersachen.de
   • Alfred M. Szmidt

   @glitzersachen @loke @amszmidt PS: The reason I bring up the Roman Numeral thing might sound petty, but my reasoning is only this: For absolutely everything you can do in Lisp, if there is a practical opposite, you can do it with equal ease in a predictable manner that is reasonably similar. Except that one thing. You can convert one way with just a few additional characters, but you have to write a complete function to do its opposite that may ironically require the use of the same (format) to convert the input a second time.

   I consider it a (very) minor inconsistency, but inconsistent it is. I won't be waving any flags over it at the next #lisp rally lol.

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     Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 13:50:29 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

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     • Elias Mårtenson
     • Glitzersachen.de

     @ksaj There is plenty of inconsistencies in Unix too. Most steam from not being able to reuse code easily (sed does not share anything with grep, so any regex stuff you need to reimplement)

     @glitzersachen @loke

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     Karsten Johansson (ksaj@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 13:50:30 JST Karsten Johansson

     • Elias Mårtenson
     • Glitzersachen.de
     • Alfred M. Szmidt

     @glitzersachen @loke @amszmidt Ironically, I actually like loop. I rarely use it, but there are some things for which it is quick and easy to use. It is certainly easy to read and that is a key selling point.

     But format should be able to convert a Roman Numeral (of either style) into binary with the same ease it can do the other way around. It seems like an obvious thing to do since it's the only missing conversation (radix) in one direction only.

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     Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 13:53:55 JST Elias Mårtenson

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     • Glitzersachen.de
     • Alfred M. Szmidt

     @amszmidt @ksaj @glitzersachen Commandline option style in dd? 🙂

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     Weekend Editor (weekend_editor@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 14:14:46 JST Weekend Editor

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     • Elias Mårtenson
     • Glitzersachen.de
     • Alfred M. Szmidt

     @ksaj @glitzersachen @loke @amszmidt

     I was going to point out that you could print your Roman numeral to a string, then use read-from-string to get it back with a different *base* setting, and put that into a defformat definition to extend format, and...

     ... and then I remembered that (a) defformat isn't part of CL, and (b) even if it were, that way lies madness.

     So, yeah.

     I guess I'm with you, once I calm down enough. :-)