Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot
My new LXDE desktop. On Debian 12.10.
But I *compiled it myself*, from upstream Git repositories of the LXDE project.
Debian's LXDE packages are buggy and old as hell. I decided to YOLO and just *purge* it. I also purged MATE, KDE, GNOME and a bunch of other bullshit that was installed on my machine. No more bullshit packages.
I have a dev environment now, so I can easily patch up whatever I want.
LXDE ftw. Also building new Libreboot to update this installation which is my personal machine.
Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot
and i did this last night instead of getting canoeboot 25.06rc1 out
which might now come out next weekend. unless i pull another rabbit out of a hat in the next 6 hours
because i'm out and about doing a favour for some friends this afternoon. and this evening i'm catching up on lab work
i wasn't going to tolerate anything that isn't LXDE. my old LXDE kept crashing, probably just because debian has buggy old LXDE. now i have my git build and will just investigate and fix it if it happens again
Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot
@littlemisssynth @janethemotherfucker i hacked a configure file so that i can build a 20 year old DE design on a modern computer. because i have it just how i like it.
leah nicole
@janethemotherfucker @libreleah yeah, but that's a hassle, and i'm a lazy catgirl who has a whole pile of old computers to go hiss at
leah nicole
@janethemotherfucker @libreleah oh, i wish, i've hit it enough to know, all it takes is one careless push of a broken package and shit can break like heck, and while higher standards help, there is no bulletproof prevention
Jane the Motherfucker
@littlemisssynth @libreleah You can revert packages.
leah nicole
@janethemotherfucker @libreleah not really, stable if anything is more like running ubuntu LTS, but even then, deb stable suits many workflows exceptionally well simply because you don't get random package breakage
Jane the Motherfucker
@littlemisssynth @libreleah Random package breakage is a myth that needs to die.
That very rarely happens.
leah nicole
@janethemotherfucker @libreleah there's a reason that many debian users, such as myself choose to use it as their distro of choice, notably that it's reliable, and generally tends to be fairly stable despite lacking the latest features, but also that it's incredibly lightweight (my nas on debian rarely uses more than 1gb of ram) as well as being largely bullshit free as debian doesn't install large amounts of superflous packages and apps instead deffering to the user to choose their preferences
Jane the Motherfucker
Nothing wrong with Debian unstable, but stable is like running RHEL.
Jane the Motherfucker
@libreleah I'd just stop using Debian, that shit is stale AF.
leah nicole
@janethemotherfucker @libreleah you realise, most debian users don't want "$better-thing", we're happy with the debian we use, and like it that way, because it does what we want, how we want, plus notions of all debian stable packages being 2+ years out of date is frankly silly, yes at times it has been that long between releases, but most packages are fairly up to date, and get regular security patches, and many debian users will make use of flatpak for apps they want the current version of
Jane the Motherfucker
@littlemisssynth @libreleah The new release of Debian won't have KDE 6....
At least with RHEL's stable releases, they release whats new and then support that forever.
Jane the Motherfucker
@libreleah @littlemisssynth xD
Literally:
https://fedoraproject.org/spins/lxde
You would then have a community of people who are actually maintaining it.
Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot
@janethemotherfucker @littlemisssynth I'm just going to figuratively run this car (Debian) into the ground until it falls apart. Which should be ETA Summer time when Debian 13 comes out.
Then I can either dist-upgrade or... I could install Arch Linux. I run mostly Arch based distros on all my test machines, and I use it heavily for different things. But using Debian on my primacy computer has just been a bad habit, really.
I don't really care anyway. All the Linuxes except Alpine are the same.
Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot
@janethemotherfucker @littlemisssynth Give me pretty much any reasonable Linux distro and I'll make it do what I want.
Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot
@janethemotherfucker @littlemisssynth btw libreboot also compiles on alpine. i patched up some stuff for it ages ago. probably still works. still need to merge a partial patch someone send adding dependency setup, and then tweak that, but yeah
probably some weird bugs caused by musl libc and the various upstream sources assuming glibc but the user i had test it for me built it and flashed it entirely from alpine and it booted just fine
Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot
@janethemotherfucker @littlemisssynth but then i'd have to tolerate fedora bullshit
you realise i built it all from source yes?
whatever patches they did, if any of them are useful, i can just cherry-pick them into my own branch and re-compile easily.
find their repo and show me if they did any interesting lxde patches. i bet it's probably just vanilla like the debian packaging
Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot
@janethemotherfucker @littlemisssynth yeah, like i said, i do use arch too. i don't really care what's on my main machine, since i can just run whatever i want on other machines. or run virtual macchines on my main machine
debian does the job. i don't really give a shit what's in debian packages. like i said, i'm using my own lxde compiled from source!
like
if i want to make my lxde sing the lolly pop song, i can. debian package repos are irrelevant to me.
Jane the Motherfucker
Yeah, I know. I'm just saying, the Fedora team actually maintains it. It's not some orphaned package on Debian that nobody cares about.
It's not just about $newthing, but about having something designed for power users and developers who don't want to spend a day manually installing things.
I like to tinker, I used to build gentoo machines. That installation process doesn't give me a hit of dopamine anymore.
It's about reducing technical debt.
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