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   👩‍🦯The Blind Fraggle (fragglemuppet@fandom.ink)'s status on Tuesday, 06-May-2025 05:22:18 JST 👩‍🦯The Blind Fraggle

   I had a boyfriend once who had some..interesting ideas, and not in a good way. He said once that salt is worse for diabetes. Is there any truth to that?? He also said that cooked vegetables were healthier than raw, which I can sort of see how that could work, and that fruit is healthier than either, which I have my doubts about because of all the sugar. This wasn't necessarily in relation to diabetes, but just another part of the conversation.

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     👩‍🦯The Blind Fraggle (fragglemuppet@fandom.ink)'s status on Tuesday, 06-May-2025 06:51:24 JST 👩‍🦯The Blind Fraggle

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     • highly principled invertebrate

     @BrahmaBelarusian I completely understand.

     Well he was definitely the kind of guy who thought he knew what was what about a lot of things, so there's that.

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     highly principled invertebrate (brahmabelarusian@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 06-May-2025 06:51:25 JST highly principled invertebrate

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     @Fragglemuppet *I hope this didn't seem dodgy of me but it's sort of a pet peeve of mine, hating how people tend to browbeat eachother & advertisers deliberately help cover for these differences in definitions, of "what's healthier & thusly better".

     There's definitely more specifics you can dig into but it bottom lines as "eat what makes your system behave it's best, as that's what's healthiest" ! And understand that could have 20 completely different answers among the same number of people.

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     highly principled invertebrate (brahmabelarusian@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 06-May-2025 06:51:26 JST highly principled invertebrate

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     @Fragglemuppet From my 100s of hours of study on this berries, which I think most people would put in the "fruit" category, are often "healthier" in the dimension of "most diversity of nutrients" but vegetables are often "healthier" than fruits because they've got more in quantity of a few nutrients.... & that definitely has exceptions.

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     highly principled invertebrate (brahmabelarusian@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 06-May-2025 06:51:27 JST highly principled invertebrate

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     @Fragglemuppet The main problem with 2 of these 3 of these statements is how very vague they are.
     Some fruits have more vital nutrients than some vegetables without question, but likewise some grains, nuts & legumes have more vital nutrients than almost all fruits and vegetables. Another standard of "healthier" beyond how many vital nutrients a food has can legitimately be considered "how much of the most commonly needed nutrients food has" which would have this order different from that other standard. Genetic differences do alter how much of which nutrients are best for individual people which complicates this even more, beyond if any what medical problems they have, their life phase and how physically active, or not, they are.

     Also individual nutrients almost never act on a person's health on their own, which is why so many studies on individual ones completely fail in replicability to determine the answer to seemingly simple questions as "Is X good or bad for Alpha?"

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     👩‍🦯The Blind Fraggle (fragglemuppet@fandom.ink)'s status on Tuesday, 06-May-2025 08:56:37 JST 👩‍🦯The Blind Fraggle

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     • highly principled invertebrate

     @BrahmaBelarusian Exactly.

     Thanks for all the info!

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     highly principled invertebrate (brahmabelarusian@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 06-May-2025 08:56:39 JST highly principled invertebrate

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     @Fragglemuppet -like millions of other men.....

     Many foods have at least a few their nutrients lessened/destroyed by cooking btw (like vitamins B, C & potassium), even as the cooking process makes some nutrients (like beta carotene) more bioavailable, so that generality on cooking is particularly awful... because it's really "which nutrients do you most need now" as that's a part of why "a balanced diet" in concept makes sense.