@waifu@gamingonlinux Gaben has only taken free software backwards by soiling what should be a free software OS with more proprietary malware.
His company has paid codeweavers to make improvements to WINE and has hired the DVXK developer, for the sole purposes on running proprietary software, not free software.
FOSSTard, FreeTard or GNUTard, not to be confused with a FOSSoid, is an insufferable person whose most prominent identity is Free Software advocacy (#FOSS advocacy) done the wrong way. These people can be identified online by the GNUJihad :gnujihad: flag, or by the language they use when writing their long posts about how Free Software is better than proprietary software in every way. Usually by writing "Total proprietary death" or it's acronym "TPD" somewhere in the post.
Instead of advocating for practical Free Software use, they support only 100% Free Software solutions while ignoring how broken and unusable they can be. Thus eliminating any potential new users of Free Software they could have convinced otherwise.
I agree that absolute normies and crybaby devs should be gatekept, but your way of gatekeeping makes any switching to Linux a pain for newcomers, because simply recommending 100% free software solutions is not a solution, because it results in broken functionality 90% of the time. Not to mention that this way doesn't gatekeep the crybabies that are actively making everything worse, because they are immune to this type of "crying" about "muh GNU free software" for to me unknown reasons. So you either take the proper RMS route of advocating against proprietary software while acknowledging that somewhat free is still better than not free at all. Or you go the Suiseiseki GNU/Retard route and cry about food/alchohol/F-Droid/loadable firmware being proprietary and making yourself look dumb almost all the time. There's no in-between.
And before Suiseiseki goes on his "my dual Opterons from 2007 work just fine, skill issue" rant, here's something. Nobody actually cares.
PS: I still didn't add GNU/Glowies to the copypasta :meowSad:
@phnt@fluffytail.org@Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com It's one of those things where they are actively shooting themselves on the foot and don't even notice lol, i asked sui if he was commie because these kind of thoughts kinda align with the backwards logic they tend to have about economics but it's actually the argentine equivalent to a "cafe libertarian", funny term imo, kinda like arguing for years in a coffee shop while the world goes on around them
@phnt@Suiseiseki@waifu if people want to run windows software then they should use windows, I don't see why you need to push for everyone to use linux.
@Cyrillic@Suiseiseki@waifu You have to be at least somewhat compatible in certain fields, or make alternatives to make the switch possible. And then we go into the sometimes laughable quality of modern free software programs, but I digress. If your goal is to have a closed ecosystem (Suiseiseki rant incoming about that word) similar to what Apple does nowadays, then this is certainly a solution. But I don't want that. And I don't want everyone to use Linux either. I would even go as far to say that I would like 50% of the community that is active online gone, because they are those I call crybaby devs. People like Drew Loli DeVault, Wayland devs, all GNOME devs,...
That said a Windows system for things that simply cannot be done on Linux (3D parametric CAD that won't make your hair grey after a day for example) is something I do. It's a workable solution to the compat and alternatives problem.
>cafe libertarian With have a similar phrase "Prague cafe". Depending on who you ask you get two definitions. Either they are people that failed in a political career, unable of self-critique with and inflated ego. Or people that a certain ex-president used to call his "enemies". Former is from the ex-president (the smoking and drinking skeleton on a wheelchair one) and latter is from the individuals labeled as "Prague cafe".
@phnt@fluffytail.org@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com@Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com we call them this because they failed not only in their political career but also as people, it's a kind of shared masturbation ritual saying "oh yes I know EXACTLY what's wrong" and then proceed to do nothing about it for years at a time. They know what's "best" yet refuse to share it with everyone, creating a more miserable world in the process.
>because it results in broken functionality 90% of the time. Assuming that is true, 10% of the time functionality certainly isn't broken.
It depends on the computer really, but certainly more than 10% of computers will work just fine with Trisquel GNU/Linux-libre - the usual issues are poor quality Wi-Fi and GPU cards.
>while acknowledging that somewhat free is still better than not free at all I have acknowledged that mostly free is less bad than totally nonfree, but there are cases when you can easily go 100% free with only a minor inconvenience (that may not concern many people) and you should do so in such cases.
>loadable firmware That is an oxymoron.
A socketed ROM chip is not loadable - the process of putting a new one in is slotting or plugging it in.
>my dual Opterons from 2007 work just fine, skill issue" They're from 2011 - imagine having such skill issues that you can't get dates right.
Core 2 Duo's and Quads from 2007 works fine too as well.
Such drawbacks are never a cause for shame as long as the software remains free, as the users at least have freedom, unlike with proprietary software.
As it happens, many free software programs once developed enough become the best in the world and keep getting better, but that is a nice side effect on the way to the goal and is not the goal - which is to unfetter community and humanity from the chains of the proprietary masters.
There are some cases when adding proprietary software to the system makes the system more convenient to use, but doing so is a ruinous compromise, as it is 1000 steps in the wrong direction; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.html
A faster road is no good if it leads down to proprietary hell instead of up to freedom after all.
Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the addition of proprietary software was only a temporary thing (like running proprietary software for the sole purpose of getting rid of it), but what occurs in 99% of cases is that the proprietary software remains for years or decades and is only ever removed if it becomes totally obsolete.
Now that digital handcuffs on hardware that also requires a program loaded at runtime into RAM to work, it has become cryptographically impossible to replace many proprietary software programs and thus such hardware should not be supported (to not encourage the purchase of such hardware and therefore reward manufacturers for forevermore taking the users freedom), unless and until a cryptographer has taken a look at the handcuffing scheme and has totally broken it (if that is all possible, considering that a competently implemented RSA scheme is impossible to break without the private key).
The Steam deck is not about free software - it's about working towards denying the ability of microsoft to take a cut of Value's profits (microsoft wants to do an apple and have all software on windows to go through the "windows store" and take a fat cut of every financial transaction, although so far they haven't got very far, but might in the next 10 years with windows 11 and 12 and whatever) and towards denying the ability of microsoft to dictate what Value is allowed to do - purely a business decision.
Although the development required to support the desk has lead to functional advantages in (mostly) free software programs like WINE and DXVK, such programs are primarily for the purpose of executing proprietary software and have next to no use when it comes to executing free software, as you have no use for WINE if you just port the free software to GNU and you have no use for DXVK if you remove the proprietary DX calls from the trapped software and free it by replacing them with OpenGL calls.
Bro, this is like saying “only beautiful goals count” — nah, a goal is a goal. If someone touches Linux through the Steam Deck or WINE, that's a win, even if it's not pure GNU gospel.
Gatekeeping freedom ‘til it’s perfect just means nobody joins. You don’t win a championship by benching your best players because they wear the wrong boots. You play, you win, you teach.
Shooting ourselves in the foot over ideology? That’s how free software ends up in the B league.
@Suiseiseki@Cyrillic@waifu >>loadable firmware >That is an oxymoron. >A socketed ROM chip is not loadable - the process of putting a new one in is slotting or plugging it in. >Who's the dumb one? You
@Suiseiseki@Cyrillic@waifu >There are some cases when adding proprietary software to the system makes the system more convenient to use, but doing so is a ruinous compromise, as it is 1000 steps in the wrong direction; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.html There are some cases where I can make my life easier by using proprietary software, but I will not do that, because I'm a masochist and like making my life harder for myself.
@waifu@Cyrillic >If someone touches Linux through the Steam Deck or WINE, that's a win, even if it's not pure GNU gospel. If someone touches that proprietary kernel with proprietary software and SaaSS, that is not a win - the only result is more popularity for that proprietary kernel.
More popularity for proprietary software is a *bad* thing.
>You don’t win a championship by benching your best players because they wear the wrong boots. You play, you win, you teach. You don't win a freedom championship by running as much proprietary software as possible - you win it by eliminating proprietary software.
>Shooting ourselves in the foot over ideology? My GNUboots are bulletproof, thus I enjoy magdumping into my boots with no effect.
>That’s how free software ends up in the B league. Free software is in the @ league, as keeping proprietary software out ensures that it keeps winning.
@phnt@Cyrillic@waifu There are some cases where I can make my life easier by using proprietary software, but I will not do that, because I'm a GNUochist and I will ensure freedom no matter how hard it is, as it only gets harder the more you leave it.