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I never got along with motorcycle people. Not even fascists in gd who rode them. Maybe it's the mp in me and the retard adrenaline junkie in them. Who knows?
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@KarlDahl @ACL9000 Not even 1/6th, if you even cut it down 20% it would be huge. It's because the system has tried to stuff as many invaders in as it could, as fast as it could and didn't give a crap about overwhelming systems.
I see videos of a family at a national park in the 50s and I almost vomit. You can't go to any park anywhere without it being full of invaders making tons of noise.
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@ACL9000 Think of how nice this place would be with a population of 1/6th of what it is now
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@ACL9000 @Paleface @judgedread All I'll say is that many people are useless and that's okay
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@KarlDahl I think that's OK for the gene pool, but in terms of higher-level stuff than animal reproduction we're toast.
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@Paleface We are presently winning, gradually. I don't think there's a lot of excess traction left for pushing harder. The problem is that half of my own generation really don't qualify as proper Americans; they share no culture with me and they never think about their ancestry. With the younger groups it's worse. This means that with each passing day there is less drive to accomplish any of the things you think are important and doable, because it's only guys like me who want to save anything, and we're an infinitesimal nothing in a sea of people whose very presence applies a counterforce to anything we do.
People will be around in 100 years. To them, "American" will mean as much as "Sumerian". I'm sorry if that fucks up the world.
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@Paleface I want @judgedread and @KarlDahl to confirm or deny my stupidity or wisdom, here.
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@Paleface Yeah but the time to do something about that was decades ago. The avalanche wasn't fated; it didn't have to happen, but it's happening now and nobody has ever found a way to reverse such a thing.
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You see, that's our only real disagreement, I think there's plenty of time to stop it. Radically changing the course of things would require surprisingly little violence because our enemies are cowardly faggots who have won everything through lies, subterfuge and the exploitation of our trust, but it would require some.
I'm also not committing any, though.
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@Paleface No I'm not; I'm saying there is no enthusiasm for being American anymore, and the evidence is what I have stated. My own personal feelings, how I conceive the world, and what I personally value are at odds with what I observe in everyone else around me. It is a complaint, not a denigration. And obviously as I describe what I think is important and what I think is really going on, which are opposed things, it can appear contradictory. I'm concerned with the contradiction. It is the problem I see.
Nothing about Americans losing their cultural identity has anything to do with how bad ZOG is gonna fuck you up, bro. I think you literally hear something completely different from
what I've said every time I say it.
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We're on the internet to talk shit that ultimately doesn't matter, but if we want to be a little serious about it, Americans losing their cultural identity has everything to do with how badly ZOG is fucking me up because you have, in not a small part through that atomization, provided them their main base of operations, virtually limitless manpower and oversized global influence.
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You're busy denigrating Americans in this thread, dude.
Oh wait, this is another thread. Never mind then, carry on.
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@Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta You got along fine with me for years until I tired of the way you never miss an opportunity to denigrate Americans. You behave antisocially, so I refuse to maintain a cordial social relationship with you.
You're going to continue doubling-down on this, too, which is as cringe as it is funny, because you *could* just not do that one super-abrasive thing and we'd be cool, but you won't. You like dunking on us. It makes you feel good.
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@ACL9000 @KarlDahl You have very low ambitions. I aim for 70%
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@sickburnbro @KarlDahl Well, this is our lives now, and 20% is an ambitious figure.
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@sickburnbro @KarlDahl What are the steps?
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@ACL9000 @KarlDahl You can't have steps in a situation like this where there is active resistance, because then all your enemy has to do is block one step and you are screwed.
You have to look at it as "what can I do to a running system to change it" - what is being done right now to make progressives fall over themselves defending nasty people is an example of an effective action, because it's win-win, and shifts the conversation, and allows people to get away from making excuses for illegals a'la "well, I know ONE illegal who works really hard"
But overall you basically have to get rid of liberalism. No small feat.
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@sickburnbro @KarlDahl Well, in order for you or anyone else to properly gauge my ambitions you're gonna have to have a more concrete understanding of how you're going to accomplish your own really awesome ambitions. For example, "what can I do to a running system to change it" isn't good enough because it entreats people to flights of fancy. What can I do to a running system to change it, *where I can actually touch it*.
Getting rid of liberalism is a PR game. We win that already, slowly but surely, by talking shit about the status quo. The context of this thread is someone wishes more of us would secretly burn down the houses of those who threaten us. I agree that would be awesome, but where the idea meets what I can observe about reality, it runs into practicability problems.
If you're arguing that shifting countrywide opinions dramatically will enable us to deport everyone, I agree, and it's one of the reasons I don't go around burning down mayors' houses, but it's like pushing something heavy uphill in mud or on ice; you cannot just jam harder on it and go faster. It's going to take a very long time to ship out the top 20%. It's ambitious. You can go ahead and sneer at me for saying so again, now.
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@ACL9000 @KarlDahl I mean if you are asking for "what can YOU personally do" that is another question and I reviewed this thread only quickly.
But yes, I would agree that just burning down houses of nasty people isn't very effective.
From a very simply point of view, the system is very fortified against that kind of action; it will make the lives of anyone associated with someone who does that a living hell, and it will make sure to reward those hurt lavishly and publically. Efforts will be publically made to ensure it won't happen again, and someone will quickly stand up to replace them.
Rules for radicals lays out a very good method to de-legitimize the system. When you can make the system repeatedly have to make a choice between the stated rules that its supportors care about and maintaining power, it's a good thing to do.
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@sickburnbro @KarlDahl It's very true that I have a habit of seeing everything in the context of "what can I personally do", and I use my social media presence to accumulate good ideas purely for my own self-improvement. While I care about events and watch them, I don't often find that my life directly intersects with any of what we talk about here, at least not enough for me to *do* anything.
I guess I interpeted "what can I do to change a system" as less-generalized than you meant it. I agree that we all can participate in the doing of de-legitimizing the system. What would be really good is if someone could discover a way to accelerate that process many times.
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@ACL9000 @KarlDahl I don't mind at all people who want to know what they can do personally.
What I suggest for people is what I've always suggested, and that's to strengthen your local community. If you have no real community locally and have no options for it, perhaps relocating is the right idea, but I generally think trying to exit is one of those "grass is greener" problems.
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