@sickburnbro @KarlDahl Well, in order for you or anyone else to properly gauge my ambitions you're gonna have to have a more concrete understanding of how you're going to accomplish your own really awesome ambitions. For example, "what can I do to a running system to change it" isn't good enough because it entreats people to flights of fancy. What can I do to a running system to change it, *where I can actually touch it*.

Getting rid of liberalism is a PR game. We win that already, slowly but surely, by talking shit about the status quo. The context of this thread is someone wishes more of us would secretly burn down the houses of those who threaten us. I agree that would be awesome, but where the idea meets what I can observe about reality, it runs into practicability problems.

If you're arguing that shifting countrywide opinions dramatically will enable us to deport everyone, I agree, and it's one of the reasons I don't go around burning down mayors' houses, but it's like pushing something heavy uphill in mud or on ice; you cannot just jam harder on it and go faster. It's going to take a very long time to ship out the top 20%. It's ambitious. You can go ahead and sneer at me for saying so again, now.