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   :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 17:31:30 JST :blobcatflower:
   i never follow youtube drama why do people say pewdiepie is a fascist
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 17:31:28 JST SuperDicq

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     @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz He said the gamer word once

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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 17:33:59 JST Phantasm

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     @lucy @SuperDicq Someone also posted a pic of him doing the roman salute which might as well be out of context (no source provided). All in all, it's just the typical drama witch hunt as is usual in the Mastadon parts.
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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 17:34:00 JST :blobcatflower:

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     @SuperDicq oh no
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 17:36:21 JST SuperDicq

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     @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz Yes, indeed we should criticize PewDiePie for the right reasons.
     
     Such as not mentioning GNU, assigning full credit of the operating system to Linus Torvalds and calling GIMP "open source".
     
     This is the actual unacceptable stuff.

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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 17:37:19 JST :blobcatflower:

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     @SuperDicq @phnt posts like this remind me to setup voidlinux with musl already
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 17:39:27 JST Phantasm

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     @SuperDicq @lucy Sorry, but I have to post this. Keep in mind that specifically this mentality gate keeps newcomers and therefore is against RMS' goals.
     Schooling a Beta GNUtard on Linux-5Wz9BkzU1zY.webm
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 17:41:14 JST Fish of Rage

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     @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @lucy both of those right wing figureheads are super super pro jewish
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     victim of woke cancel culture 🏳️‍⚧️ (firingsquadsenjoyer@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 17:41:15 JST victim of woke cancel culture 🏳️‍⚧️

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     @lucy one of the big things was when he paid two guys to hold up a sign that said "Death to the Jews" on it or something, also he was always sort of pally with some of the right wing figureheads like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson and even did videos with Shapiro once or twice iirc
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 18:54:18 JST SuperDicq

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     @bunni@raru.re @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz I am pretty sure I've asked multiple times on fedi yesterday why people consider him a fascist and the only answer I've gotten so far boils down to:
     
     * avoiding politics is a fascist tactic somehow
     * advocating for free speech is fascist somehow
     
     I have gotten nothing of substance.

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     ‮ 🐰 innuB :bunHop: (bunni@raru.re)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 18:54:20 JST ‮ 🐰 innuB :bunHop:

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     @phnt @SuperDicq @lucy you both are insane for defending pewdiepie's nazi stuff without looking at the context, and saying it's out of context

     Like, if you want to defend someone from nazi allegations, first check that they're not real, otherwise you just look like a nazi 💀💀💀

     If you don't know anything, don't play devil's advocate

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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 19:00:41 JST Phantasm

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     @bunni @SuperDicq @lucy
     > you both are insane for defending pewdiepie's nazi stuff without looking at the context, and saying it's out of context
     Then give us the context. I know the gamer word clip from years ago and considering it's age that's not enough of a convincing argument to call someone a nazi/fascist on its own.
     
     I specifically said "it might as well be out of context" regarding the salute. I can't make decisions if I have no context for them. It might have been serious, it might have been a part of a darker joke, or it might have been in a cynical context. I simply don't know.
     
     >If you don't know anything, don't play devil's advocate
     I can't even play devil's advocate. Because I simply lack any meaningful info. Which means I must either jump to conclusions based on bias (I won't), or remain impartial.
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     ‮ 🐰 innuB :bunHop: (bunni@raru.re)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 19:13:35 JST ‮ 🐰 innuB :bunHop:

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     @phnt @SuperDicq @lucy ok, sorry, I misunderstood you
     I saw superdicq and associated them with you
     My bad

     (Hope you understand it's not out of context - there's plenty of context showing he's doing nazi salute. What you make of his ideas is up to you. He did make nazi videos, doesn't mean he's a nazi. His community does have fascist ideas though, and that's what people were criticising afaik)

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:08:43 JST SuperDicq

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     @eric@pl.starnix.network @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @bunni@raru.re DO YOU WANT PEOPLE USING LINUX OR NOT????I really do not care what kernel people use. Differences between kernels are just technical details and personal preferences.
     
     I just want people to use free software as much as possible. And PewDiePie's video does nothing to get people interested into the free software movement.

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     Eric Zhang 2: Episode 1 (eric@pl.starnix.network)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:08:45 JST Eric Zhang 2: Episode 1

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     @phnt @SuperDicq @lucy @bunni why are people even arguing about pewdiepie's nazi stuff in the first place, like DO YOU WANT PEOPLE USING LINUX OR NOT????
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:11:29 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @phnt @SuperDicq @lucy god forbid a man does a funny
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:12:23 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @lucy tbf a good chunk of people hate jews now
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     EmoDagda (dagda@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:12:44 JST EmoDagda

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     "I LOVE ANIME MUSSOLINI, however only for the clean-your-room advice and sigma routines, not for the ideological part haha, I'm not a fascist I just fucking love Fascism (Japan) isn't that easy to understand? Fascism (Japan) is so cool kids, and it's totally unpolitical™️"
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:13:37 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @dagda @lucy last one is supercute
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     EmoDagda (dagda@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:13:38 JST EmoDagda

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     >hello yes I advocate for a society with rigorous "natural" selection of non-Herrenrasse please ignore my own dysgenic parody of a "human" body, my non-existent jawline and raging homosexual past
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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:13:40 JST :blobcatflower:

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     @dagda > Scholars have argued that Mishima's failure to receive a "first class" rating on his conscription examination (reserved only for the most physically fit recruits), in combination with the illness which led him to be erroneously declared unfit for duty, contributed to an inferiority complex over his frail constitution that later led to his obsession with physical fitness and bodybuilding
     
     do moids really smh
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:13:53 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @bunni @phnt @SuperDicq @lucy it's just jokes
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:15:09 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @SuperDicq @bunni @phnt @eric @lucy getting into the fsf is irrelevant, getting into linux and thus just using free software because of inertia (like a normal person) does matter
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:23:47 JST SuperDicq

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     @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @bunni@raru.re @phnt@fluffytail.org @eric@pl.starnix.network @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz If people use the Linux kernel on a proprietary operating system (like most Android users for example) it does not promote free software and it is honestly no different from using Windows.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:25:35 JST SuperDicq

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     @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @bunni@raru.re @phnt@fluffytail.org @eric@pl.starnix.network @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz Just because someone uses the Linux kernel I do not see how they will automatically start using more free software by inertia.
     
     If they do not aware of the philosophy of the free software movement and are not making conscious steps on the freedom ladder this will not happen.

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     EmoDagda (dagda@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:29:16 JST EmoDagda

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     @mischievoustomato @lucy
     "I can take all nationalists of Istanbul at once!"
     - "In a fistfight?"
     - "Uhmm.. yeah something similar.."
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:29:29 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @dagda @lucy he can take me and only me
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:29:49 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @SuperDicq @bunni @phnt @eric @lucy bruh
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:38:40 JST SuperDicq

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     @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @bunni@raru.re @phnt@fluffytail.org @eric@pl.starnix.network @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz Even in the case of GNU/Linux there are for example many users who use it exclusively to run proprietary software (i.e. SteamOS).
     
     If public figures like Pewdiepie almost start to approach the point but fail in execution when explaining free software it is really frustrating, because they could've actually made a difference for the movement, but they instead choose not to.

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     チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:51:07 JST チャノさん

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     @phnt @SuperDicq @lucy @bunni Certainly doesn't help that literally anyone and anything has been and is being labeled "nazi" and "fascist" for the most retarded shit, to the point that the words no longer hold any meaning.

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     matrix07012 :thotpatrol: (matrix@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 20:57:45 JST matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

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     @phnt @SuperDicq @lucy he got a ww2 uk army costume and did a roman salute in it as mockery of some crazy article

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 21:02:04 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @bunni @phnt @eric @lucy @mischievoustomato >the Linux kernel
     Such naming scheme unfortunately spreads the confusion, as it implies Linux is much more than a kernel.
     
     To stress that Linux is only a kernel, you should write; "the kernel, Linux" or "Linux, the kernel".
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     Kerosene ~suya~ CEO of DarkFedi (kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 21:08:25 JST Kerosene ~suya~ CEO of DarkFedi

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     @matrix @phnt @SuperDicq @lucy Well that's shameful he didn't even get the Hugo Boss drip.
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     waifu (waifu@mai.waifuism.life)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 21:11:29 JST waifu

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     @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz some people call fascist anything that moves

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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 21:14:49 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @SuperDicq @bunni @phnt @eric @lucy
     > Even in the case of GNU/Linux there are for example many users who use it exclusively to run proprietary software (i.e. SteamOS).
     
     because... that's what their computers are for. To do what they wanna do.
     The thing you gotta get is that a lot of people just wanna use their computer, they aren't ideologues.
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     @SuperDicq @bunni @phnt @eric @lucy freedom ladder nonsense aside, I know for a fact that if the person does care about computers, they'll eventually learn about foss software as they use linux. I know I did. Most of the stuff I use is foss, aside from games and 1 (one) DAW plugin.
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     The MILF Messiah (lunarised@whinge.town)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 21:16:36 JST The MILF Messiah

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     @lucy he's done some fascist adjacent stuff, but nothing really egregious, especially for the time
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 21:21:55 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @bunni @phnt @eric @lucy @mischievoustomato Using a proprietary version of Android may actually be worse than using windows, as windows on most computers doesn't spy on you and your location 24/7 and windows tends to have more free software ported to it than Android.
     
     The few cases when it'll be better is if most of what you do is in Termux (GNU on Android), as then switching to proper GNU/Linux would be extremely easy then.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 21:59:36 JST SuperDicq

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     @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @bunni@raru.re @phnt@fluffytail.org @eric@pl.starnix.network @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz The freedom ladder isn't nonsense. You've just described the freedom ladder.
     foss software"free open source software software"
     
     Just say "free software" lmao

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     @SuperDicq @bunni @phnt @eric @lucy no
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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 22:08:52 JST :blobcatflower:

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     @eric @phnt @SuperDicq @bunni i couldn't care less about people using linux in fact i hope normies will piss off and use it less 🤷
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     pettanko (pettanko@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 22:19:06 JST pettanko

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     @dagda @lucy @mischievoustomato hey, whatever works
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