Cassandra Granade 🏳️⚧️
Hot take that is fresh off the brain-press, and that wisdom would probably dictate that I edit first:
Using technological products and services that can unilaterally enforce arbitrary policies against you without you having the ability to dissent or choose differently *is* a form of obedience in advance. In particular, if your choice of products and services means that you cannot meaningfully disobey in the future, you have already preemptively obeyed.
✧✦Catherine✦✧
@xgranade you could say the same about renting a place from a landlod
ultimately, i'm too tired to not do *some* of this, and at this point i'm tired enough to do *a lot* of this. the only question is where, really, and even that is partly illusory
Rich Felker
@whitequark @xgranade In theory a landlord can't impose arbitrary policies. On top of having a contract, civilized jurisdiction have laws strictly controlling what terms a landlord can set, if/when they can evict or decline to renew, how much rent can increase, etc.
While the concept of landlords is bad to begin with, these digital landlords being *completely unregulated* is an entirely different layer of problem and makes subjecting oneself to them far more dangerous than renting your home.
✧✦Catherine✦✧
@dalias @xgranade i do not come from a civilized jurisdiction so to me they're more or less the same
✧✦Catherine✦✧
@xgranade reasonable, yeah
Cassandra Granade 🏳️⚧️
@whitequark (The "for most people" needed, amongst other reasons, to account for present company being rather exceptional at reverse engineering and circumvention.)
Cassandra Granade 🏳️⚧️
@whitequark Yes, and that's one of my primary problems with the typical advice of "don't obey in advance" (often from the same folks who tell you to pick your battles, but I digress).
Given that, my point is twofold: (1) there's a meaningful difference *for most people* between "my tech won't allow me to do this at all" and "I can do this, but there's a nonzero chance people with guns will show up," and (2) recognizing where we have preemptively obeyed is still a useful analysis, if incomplete.
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