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   Dan Wentzel 🏳️‍🌈 (danwentzel@urbanists.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 05:01:13 JST Dan Wentzel 🏳️‍🌈

   Martha Stewart went to prison for less market manipulation than Trump is doing.

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     Steve's Place (steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 05:01:12 JST Steve's Place

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     @danwentzel She went to prison for a misstatement to the FBI over a $5000 investment, who are allowed to lie to us, but we are not allowed the same courtesy. POTUS has lied millions of times. Tens of thousands of times as POTUS. Nothing happens if you are a powerful Republican. You're a god.

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     Steve's Place (steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 05:41:17 JST Steve's Place

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     @burnitdown @danwentzel He's a volume shooter.

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     A Flock of Beagles (burnitdown@beige.party)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 05:41:18 JST A Flock of Beagles

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     @steter @danwentzel all presidents lie.

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     Steve's Place (steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 06:10:08 JST Steve's Place

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     @burnitdown @danwentzel I seem to recall that Trump had told over 35,000 documented lies.

     How many documented lies had Biden?
     Obama?
     Bush II?
     Clinton? (He told a whopper)
     Bush I?
     Reagan? (His entire administration was a lie)
     Carter? (Most honest POTUS in my lifetime)

     How many have people documented?

     This is false equivalency. Trump is a professional liar.

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump

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     A Flock of Beagles (burnitdown@beige.party)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 06:10:09 JST A Flock of Beagles

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     @steter @danwentzel

     all presidents lie a lot. just like cops, they have the power to do that. changing the president doesn't stop presidents from lying.

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     Steve's Place (steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 07:18:23 JST Steve's Place

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     @burnitdown @danwentzel You can't seem to see the forest for the trees, and I'm not here to argue with you. Ta-ta.

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     A Flock of Beagles (burnitdown@beige.party)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 07:18:25 JST A Flock of Beagles

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     @steter @danwentzel

     why do you even remember a number like that? of what use is it to you?

     was anyone even counting when those people were president? the only one i remember that happening with was George W. Bush, and that was also the last time everyone thought it was funny and somehow useful to call fascists ableist slurs instead of naming what they do. that should tell about who cares about counting politicians' lies, and when they decide to do it.

     if no one counts the lies, it doesn't mean the lies didn't happen. it means that people with an obvious bias choose to only count lies under certain conditions, but do not count lies when it would mean criticising their equally fascist Democrat party.

     it's not false equivalency, it's you having a confirmation bias.