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   cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:21 JST cjd

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   • Wolf480pl
   > Current govt: PO+TD+NL
   > Current president: PiS
   
   That sounds like a pretty good arrangement. Make sure nobody is able to do anything, so nobody does anything bad.
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     Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:22 JST Wolf480pl

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     @cjd
     the 2 remaining parties are:

     - Trzecia Droga (a.k.a. PSL + PL2050) - the pro-reconciliation one, with strong traditions of internal democracy and pluralism. Unfortunately, since entering into coalition with PO to form the current government, they've lost popularity.

     - Nowa Lewica - as leftist as you can imagine. They think PO is not leftist enough. Also obsessed with bringing PiS to justice.

     Previous govt: PiS

     Current govt: PO+TD+NL
     Current president: PiS

     3/3

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     Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:22 JST Wolf480pl

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     @cjd oh, also, both PiS and PO governments have done a lot to support Ukraine, and to rearm Poland.

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     Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:23 JST Wolf480pl

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     @cjd the 2 biggest players that forked the law are:

     - PiS, which is traditionalist, pro-church, pro-welfare, anti-abortion, obsessed with rooting out the soviet-communist influence that they believe lurks deep in the state structures. They have a messiah complex, and their leader wants to be a dictator.

     - PO, which is pro-abortion, anti-church, used to be pro-market liberal but has recently skewed towards socialism and social justice. They're obsessed with bringing PiS to justice.

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     Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:24 JST Wolf480pl

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     @cjd nah, the problem with them is that they (Konfederacja) are an amalgam of 4 smaller parties that run in the elections together. 3 of them are turbo-nationalist proponents of status-quo-ante, the remaining one is anarcho-capitalist. The thing they have in common is being for a small government and against welfare.

     What I meant by pro-Russia is that they're against any support for Ukraine, and IIRC they repeated some of RUS propaganda.

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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:25 JST cjd

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     • Wolf480pl
     Well that certainly adds an interesting twist.
     
     From only those 2 pieces of information, it kind of sounds like they're more the pro-reconciliation party than really pro-Russia. Some of these "pro-Russia parties" are better described as not rabidly anti-Russia.
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     Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:26 JST Wolf480pl

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     @cjd wait...

     but of the 5 major parties, the only one which has voiced pro-Russia claims is the same one that proposes to merge the split chains :blobcatfearful:

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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:27 JST cjd

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     • Wolf480pl
     end up with two parallel governments <-- Generally speaking, that kind of thing resolves itself pretty quickly, but the resolution mechanism is just pure unadulterated power.
     
     And invariably the side that is pro-Russia (Caleb's Law of European Politics : One side is always pro-Russia) cries "we are being oppressed, Russia please help" or something to that effect, after which the problem resolves itself once again, also, by way of pure unadulterated power.
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     Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:28 JST Wolf480pl

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     @cjd what I'm worried might happen next is that election results will be validated in a way that is accepted in one chain but not in the other, and we'll end up with two parallel governments

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     Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:29 JST Wolf480pl

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     @cjd here it's more about the politicians intentionally subverting the process of appointing judges, effectively creating a hard fork in the legal state...

     and because the polarization isn't limited only to the political class, but goes vertically throughout the society, there is little public pressure to bring the split chains back in sync, and politicians who propose to do that don't get many votes :/

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     Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:30 JST Wolf480pl

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     @cjd at least it's not like Poland, where half of the courts are fake, but nobody can agree which half

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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:30 JST cjd

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     • Wolf480pl
     Fun fun :S
     
     The court system is really losing credibility. They've always kind of made stuff up as it suits them (Wickard v. Filburn) but now with the internet, everyone can second-guess them and have an opinion.
     
     The big problem is that there's no realistic replacement. Possibly some kind of AI lawyers with massive-multiplayer-online-jury where jurors are given abstract philosophical questions which provide the glue that maps the facts of the case to an abstract model of law so that the actual judgement is something that can be checked with a proof verifier.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:07:31 JST cjd
     Spam email claiming to be some kind of Brazilian court order.
     
     Actually don't care if it's real or fake.
     
     Brazillian courts are all fake.