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   Sr. Estegosaurio 🦕 (srestegosaurio@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 23-Mar-2025 14:29:50 JST Sr. Estegosaurio 🦕

   Related the current drama about uutils being MIT:

   Didn't the EUPL happened, among other reasons, because the GPL was funny with EU law?

   Like, I get that bigcorp bad and believe me when I say I love to see them fucked but maybe the drama is a bit overblow.

   #gnu #uutils #license #legal #drama #rant

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     Abhiseck Paira :gnu: :gnuhurd: (redstarfish@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 23-Mar-2025 14:29:49 JST Abhiseck Paira :gnu: :gnuhurd:

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     @SrEstegosaurio

     EUPL is still a copyleft license while Expat (MIT) is pushover license. The two cases are not same.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Mar-2025 15:17:53 JST 翠星石

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     @SrEstegosaurio The EUPL was written as people couldn't help but write yet another license; https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#EUPL-1.2
     
     The GPLv1, GPLv2 and GPLv3 are all perfectly valid under EU copyright laws, but I guess some people didn't like how it ensures freedom in some ways?
     
     
     GNU coreutils has the best UI/UX in the world - it's beautiful to compose the flags and arguments in GNU bash.
     
     Standard tooling? You mean the rest of the GNU software?; https://www.gnu.org/software/ most of which isn't tools.
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     Sr. Estegosaurio 🦕 (srestegosaurio@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 23-Mar-2025 15:17:54 JST Sr. Estegosaurio 🦕

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     Also, in my experience GNU coreutils and other standard tooling has a shitty and outdated UI/UX.

     You might be used to it and it might also be ubicuous but that doesn't mean it sucks less.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 11:41:10 JST 翠星石

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     @SrEstegosaurio I love seeing GNU autotools output as it works great.
     
     Just because something is old doesn't mean it was bad.
     
     Of course a lot of GNU software was from the ancients, as it was started decades ago, but that software has been in development for decades, actually works and has the vast majority of bugs ironed out.
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     Sr. Estegosaurio 🦕 (srestegosaurio@mstdn.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 11:41:11 JST Sr. Estegosaurio 🦕

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     • 翠星石

     @Suiseiseki GNU Autotools are crimes against humanity if you ask me.

     Not saying everything GNU is bad but a lot of things are ancient at best.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 12:08:39 JST 翠星石

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     @EdBoatConnoisseur @SrEstegosaurio A handcrafted bash script wouldn't be portable between GNU/Linux-libre, GNU/Hurd and the BSDs etc.
     
     Generally if you don't care about portability, you just write a makefile for GNU/Linux-libre and then run it with GNU make.
     
     Autotools has the feature where it can automatically generates makefiles on every platform.
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     EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 12:08:40 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     @Suiseiseki @SrEstegosaurio unless it is gnu autohell, there's a point at which a typed by hand bash script would be a better build system than gnu automake

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     EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 13:59:13 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     @Suiseiseki @SrEstegosaurio i just write my makefiles as posix-ly as possible and pretend the bsds aren't a thing.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 13:59:13 JST 翠星石

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     @EdBoatConnoisseur @SrEstegosaurio The only reason why you would want to write something POSIX is if you want it to run on macos or the BSDs - instead you would write something GNUly.