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   Flaky (flaky@furry.engineer)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:38:26 JST Flaky

   Welp. The Mastodon account of someone in the AWS sphere suddenly stopped existing yesterday.

   All the more reason I prefer Bluesky's "centralised app, decentralised profile" approach in the long-run.

   https://bsky.app/profile/quinnypig.com/post/3lkqop2diws2v

   #Mastodon #Fediverse #Bluesky

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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:38:25 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @Flaky the fediverse is not for regular people
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     Flaky (flaky@furry.engineer)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:38:26 JST Flaky

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     if you're going to tell them to join another instance, or that they joined the wrong instance, you're part of the problem. it's frustrating that the Fediverse just doesn't listen to the issues raised by regular people.

     it's getting better (thanks in part to Bluesky putting the pressure on as a "competitor" probably) but I think Mastodon and the rest of fedi should stop listening to FOSS hobbyist ideologies, it's holding the network back so much. Best example is this: Mastodon is making a spec for auxiliary services that can handle things like spam detection, so instances don't have to, which seems alright, but then you have shit like this in the issues:

     https://github.com/mastodon/fediverse_auxiliary_service_provider_specifications/issues/46

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     egirlyuumimain (egirlyuumimain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:41:47 JST egirlyuumimain

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     • Johnny Peligro
     @mischievoustomato @Flaky No it's just for frenz
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     wiz@loli.church's status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:41:49 JST Wiz

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     @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @Flaky@furry.engineer say it again for the kids in the back.

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     pettanko (pettanko@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:43:52 JST pettanko

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     • Johnny Peligro
     @mischievoustomato @Flaky funny you're saying this to a furry
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:43:52 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @pettanko @Flaky yeah
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     Pawslut420 (sendpaws@mitra.pawslut.party)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:54:57 JST Pawslut420

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     • Sharkie

     @sekka @Flaky honestly the problem is the same one forums had like 10-20 years ago
     Every schmuck with like 5 friends is starting his own forum and he realizes that there's a lot that nobody tells you.

     I have learned you have the best experience here self hosting because you can choose between an unreliable host or a massive blocklist and it helps keep the network from becoming 2-3 massive instances.

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     Sharkie (sekka@shark.community)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 01:54:58 JST Sharkie

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     @Flaky I have a kneejerk dislike of the characterization of flaky Mastodon instances as "FOSS" ideology, but I admit that my formative years were in a time where open source was often higher-quality than closed-source offerings, and most of the time far more professional.

     It's still somewhat there, I feel, but all software has declined.

     Personally, I think "hobbyist" ideology is a more direct culprit. Professional services take a professional approach.

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     Pawslut420 (sendpaws@mitra.pawslut.party)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 02:05:07 JST Pawslut420

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     @sekka @Flaky

     >For many hobbyists, "LOOK DUDE I GOT MASTODON ON MY RASPBERRY PI HANGING OFF MY FIOS, HOW COOL IS THAT?!" is peak "admin."

     A lot of times outside the Mastodon sphere they're people running single user instances, like how people would run MC/video game servers 12 years ago before the Matchmaking Queue killed it.

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     Sharkie (sekka@shark.community)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 02:05:08 JST Sharkie

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     @sendpaws @Flaky Mhm. I'm an old-skool BBS sysop who evolved into a production systems administrator and then a production infrastructure architect. My point of view is that there are a lot of people who simply aren't equipped with the knowledge or skillset to run a production service—and many of them don't even understand what that really means when you say it. Redundancy, scalability, backups, security, caching, queuing, and so on.

     Spinning up a server is the easy part.

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     Sharkie (sekka@shark.community)'s status on Friday, 21-Mar-2025 02:05:08 JST Sharkie

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     @sendpaws @Flaky I mean, I could use this as a jumping off point for my rant on why "just put developers on it" (a la "just put security on it") is inherently destructive as well. A developer (or hobbyist) tends to look at things from the position of "Can we?" whereas an architect or sysadmin (in the production sense of the word) tends to look at the problem as "should we?"

     For many hobbyists, "LOOK DUDE I GOT MASTODON ON MY RASPBERRY PI HANGING OFF MY FIOS, HOW COOL IS THAT?!" is peak "admin."