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   Erik Jonker (erikjonker@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Mar-2025 10:58:13 JST Erik Jonker

   An FTC commissioner was fired illegally by Trump, read his statement.
   #trump #ftc

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     James 🌈💜 (shaknais@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 18:34:30 JST James 🌈💜

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     • Cluster Fcku

     @clusterfcku @ErikJonker

     The employee remains fired, because the one who would enforce whether they may return to work or not, is the one who has illegally fired them.

     There's a presidential order, that shouldn't be in effect, being enforced.

     Like the police chief firing the plumber, but the police chief also being the landowner and stationing security on the perimeter of their rentee's property.

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     Cluster Fcku (clusterfcku@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 18:34:31 JST Cluster Fcku

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     @ErikJonker what does "illegaly fired" mean here? No jurisdiction? No notice? ...?

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     James 🌈💜 (shaknais@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 18:34:31 JST James 🌈💜

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     @clusterfcku @ErikJonker

     Independent agencies are intentionally created outside of the executive branch. As such, they are not covered by presidential agency. Congress must debate and pass a motion of dismissal, to fire someone.

     That's the meaning of "independent".

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     Cluster Fcku (clusterfcku@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 18:34:31 JST Cluster Fcku

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     • James 🌈💜

     @shaknais @ErikJonker thanks, so in this case the executive had no authority, right? Isn't it that the employee is simply not fired. (I appreciate that the phrase "illegally fired" is used because people sort of get what it is about.) Perhaps comparable to the police telling me I'm fired, although I work for a plumber. I'm trying to understand how this legally works out. An illegal firing to me is when there is no cause, or the employer violates the employment contract/law. No?

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 18:34:41 JST clacke

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     • Cluster Fcku

     @clusterfcku @ErikJonker It means that the executive branch is breaking laws left and right, which regulate what the executive is allowed to do. When the courts order them to follow the law, they ignore court orders.

     They make social media posts engaging in legal fiction about how the judicial branch is not allowed to interpret law and is not allowed to "interfere" with the executive. It's a completely unique event in this century and the century before it. It's a constitutional crisis and a breakdown of the rule of law.