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   Delta Chat (delta@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Mar-2025 00:59:03 JST Delta Chat

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   • rakoo
   • Lyyn ☮️
   • Christian Thäter

   @rakoo @cehteh @lyyn the emacs-spacebar XKCD is great but maybe not entirely fitting here. We understand the concern of "the other side can remove a message on my device, and i don't like that" but it also needs to be squared with other concerns like "Damn, i sent this password/secret/photo and i really didn't want to do that, need to remove it quick". What matters a lot is that Delta Chat is designed for chatting among friends or at least non-enemies. And to test out things in real-worlds.

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     rakoo (rakoo@blah.rako.space)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Mar-2025 00:59:05 JST rakoo

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     • Lyyn ☮️
     • Christian Thäter
     @lyyn @delta @cehteh
     
     https://xkcd.com/1172/
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     Lyyn ☮️ (lyyn@mastodon.ml)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Mar-2025 00:59:06 JST Lyyn ☮️

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     • Christian Thäter

     @delta @cehteh Why there is no "I actively don't like this change" in the quiz? About "retracting" "your" messages. Please, if you really want to cater to what other messengers are doing (unfortunately) at least add a big warning that this is best effort, depends entirely on cooperation from other clients/devices in the chat and does not provide any guarantees. Especially considering that people can use regular email clients which will never (hopefully) support that.
     And ideally I would love to see a toggle to silently disable this behaviour of respecting deletion "orders" locally. This way you will avoid confrontation with your own userbase. You don't want to go the path of "your client will respect orders from some remote party regardless of what you want", right?

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     Delta Chat (delta@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Mar-2025 00:59:07 JST Delta Chat

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     • Christian Thäter

     @cehteh there is a marker for edited messages but no versioned history and no tombstone. The current UX was done after comparing with several other messengers. Current release is also the result of pragmatic implementation considerations and comes with the expectation that there will be refinements in later releases but based on real-world experiences rather than theoretic concerns (which we are aware of).

     Feel free to open discussion topics on https://support.delta.chat if needed.

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     Christian Thäter (cehteh@karlsruhe-social.de)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Mar-2025 00:59:15 JST Christian Thäter

     @delta Details please. Will the edit/history stay visible?