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   Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:12:20 JST Bread up, Bro
   the question is: why do people want a car that is 0% computer?
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:12:48 JST Bread up, Bro

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     a semi-modern carburetor is actually an analog computer, btw.
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     you should buy a fumo (teatootler@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:14:05 JST you should buy a fumo

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     @sickburnbro engine control PCM is fine you can’t run fuel injection without one
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:14:05 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @TeaTootler yes, I understand what a PCM is useful for; the question still remains, though
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:22:44 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @TeaTootler indeed! that's what I think - people want one with no electronics because *THEY DONT TRUST THEM* - which is a horrible place to be.
     
     A PCM for even a 90s car is stupid expensive. That shit is like as powerful as a gameboy. Why is it that shit $500?
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     you should buy a fumo (teatootler@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:22:45 JST you should buy a fumo

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     @sickburnbro they’re talking about data loggers and other spy shit that went in the late 2000s models onward
     
     don’t buy a Chevrolet with onstar
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:27:19 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @BroDrillard blowby will still be hard to fix by yourself.
     
     But yes, I think it's because all the electronics has been intentionally been locked away behind stupidly expensive software designed to make sure the "wrong" people don't touch it.
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     BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:27:20 JST BroDrillard

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     Because you can fix most things on them yourself.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:35:27 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • you should buy a fumo
     @TeaTootler the problem is that all these things are is a game boy with a specific game installed. There is 0 reason every car older than like 2000 shouldn't be runnable on a common ECU with a different fuel mapping ( and whatever other sensors contribute to that )
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     you should buy a fumo (teatootler@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:35:28 JST you should buy a fumo

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     @sickburnbro rarity and it only works on that car
     
     might be better off without one for that reason
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:40:31 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @7073M can't microwave me when I'm driving 120
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     Trav (7073m@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 08:40:32 JST Trav

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     @sickburnbro less susceptible to microwave weaponry

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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 09:31:00 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @mord @7073M there are certainly things you can't fix, if you've done something and your cylinders have low compression, you're probably going to need a machine shop.
     
     The intentionally impenetrability of the electronic parts, when they *should* be **easier** to fix is the point.
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     anti-semite (mord@stormcloak.info)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 09:31:01 JST anti-semite

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     • Trav
     If it's completely mechanical, there's nothing you can't fix in your driveway, with help if you need from the internet or a buddy, or whatever.
     
     You can't just grab a wrench and some parts from the junkyard and fix an ECM though
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     you should buy a fumo (teatootler@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 09:34:11 JST you should buy a fumo

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     @sickburnbro Eventually someone might come up with a programmable ECU but then you need ROM dumps and all the Jewish shit that goes with that
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 09:34:11 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @TeaTootler yeah, but that's kind of the whole right to repair stuff. It shouldn't be some kind of dumbass company secret about the fuel mappings for a 20 year old vehicle.
     
     That's basically what these stupid things do: "ok, what is the temperature and amount of air we are getting - what is the RPM: the amount of fuel to dispense is X"
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     anti-semite (mord@stormcloak.info)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 09:34:22 JST anti-semite

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     I agree, but, at least for me, I would only want one in a shit has hit the fan scenario. If I end up with motor problems that can't be fixed in the driveway, I need to swap the motor or the vehicle.
     
     I like a great many improvements that come with modern cars, but I still want an old clunker to mess around with.
     Bread up, Bro likes this.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 09:34:47 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • Trav
     @mord @7073M in SHTF you probably want a motorcycle
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 09:46:03 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • Trav
     @mord @7073M I mean I don't know if you want to be "lugging" in SHTF
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     anti-semite (mord@stormcloak.info)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 09:46:04 JST anti-semite

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     I can't lug the wife and all these dang kids around on a motorcycle 🤣
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Mar-2025 09:47:19 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • Trav
     @mord @7073M like I think "what would I want in great depression 2.0?" and then go "ok, but more pared back"