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   wakest ⁂ (liaizon@social.wake.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 04:07:59 JST wakest ⁂

   Thinking about how certain people get way too much credit for certain things. Tim did many important things but so did many other people who did just as much to make the world that we live in. I see so many mentions of Tim and very few of Ted Nelson and Bill Atkinson who I would argue are just as monumental of contributions to what we know as the web.
   https://w3c.social/@w3c/114150554471950167

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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 04:07:57 JST Fish of Rage

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     @liaizon There were a couple of people that kept this network alive when others abandoned it, kept it alive long enough for the others to come back again when mastodon made it populous again. The people that kept GNU Social and Qvitter alive.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 04:09:31 JST Fish of Rage

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     @liaizon I'm talking about mmn and hannes. They are basically forgotten
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     wakest ⁂ (liaizon@social.wake.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 04:25:07 JST wakest ⁂

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     • Ward Cunningham

     Another person who I am always surprised when people don't know of their work is Ward Cunningham (@k9ox), father of the wiki, and the other WWW, the WikiWikiWeb which was like an alternative take on the ideas that Ted Nelson originally published that Tim Berners-Lee riffed on.

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     wakest ⁂ (liaizon@social.wake.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 04:25:08 JST wakest ⁂

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     • tom jennings

     @tomjennings is someone who I could argue has had a foundational impact on the web in a similar fashion as Tim but is rarely mentioned in these sorts of places. But maybe this has more to do with what we view as "the web"

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     tom jennings (tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 20:23:00 JST tom jennings

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     @liaizon

     I was outspokenly opposed to any commercialization of FidoNet and actively sabotaged efforts to do so at a big IFNA convention, and signed on to some legal shenanigans with the packing of votes and other things. That umm probably didn't help.

     Thanks for mentioning me!

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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 20:23:18 JST Fish of Rage

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     @swart @liaizon @k9ox smallest federated wiki is so cool
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     Steve Wart (swart@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 20:23:19 JST Steve Wart

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     • Ward Cunningham

     @liaizon @k9ox he's still doing some great work with browser federated wikis!