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   Erato Heti (erato_heti@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 17:02:43 JST Erato Heti

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   @fiore i already said i dont think youre 100% off here but i maintain that its not found in facial features regardless. contrary to what a lot of people might believe the 'bimbo' archetype is not actually widely sexually appealing to most people including men. I think trying to look for sexual exploitation on the level of facial features can put us in a bad place where we are like, well FFS is just making you look like a child for men, you dont really want that, etc.
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     φ (fiore@brain.worm.pink)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 17:02:44 JST φ

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     @Erato_Heti nah i dont think youre right honestly . it rlly does feel like the objectification of women goes through the fact that women are infantilized and as such are considered less capable than men .

     this is very strongly expressed in porn , and its very often shown ina very very weird way , with childlike behaviour and looks .

     this is of course in contrast to milf porn but that just exjsts because men cannot exist without mommy issues in this society

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     Erato Heti (erato_heti@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 17:02:45 JST Erato Heti

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     @fiore even this is not nessecarily a 'recent' phenomenon. the extreme desire of women without recipracation made for the the semi-autobiographical text The Sorrows of Young Werther is about on par with the incel manifesto now, and had a lot of copycat suicides in its date of publication hundreds of years ago. i dont think there are 'childlike' facial traits that are being seeked out tho. the closest i can think of is those 'human barbie doll' people you see in japan which are not seen as widely attractive and examined entirely as freaks.
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     φ (fiore@brain.worm.pink)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 17:02:46 JST φ

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     @Erato_Heti ppl engaging with hentai and porn in general are brainwashed into associating childlike features with pornographic content . its not even a loli thing , its everywhere

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     Erato Heti (erato_heti@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 17:02:46 JST Erato Heti

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     @fiore i think you may be right even though the framing is messy. my grandpa once got me this pin up calendar of women, and it had this 'refined' sexual quality. the women were all standing boldly and felt more individualized. women in actual pornshoots, because of how the camera and sexual experiences work have to loudly exclaim what they are doing, crawl around, and have no body hair at all. i dont think this has created a situation where men are becoming necessarily more pedarastic directly though. i think if anything its just atomized them from maintaining relationships and revealing sexual fantasies as much while still doing the song and dance of madonna-whore lamentation of women.
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     Erato Heti (erato_heti@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 17:02:47 JST Erato Heti

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     @fiore i dont want to come off frigid in case this comes from a place of hurt but i think the sexual exploitation of both groups is primarily opportunistic rather than pure fetish sexual motivation. full grown people cant really have child faces tbh. pedarests instead try to make women engage in childlike behaviours and leave it at that. thats part of where the 'daddy dom' thing comes from for instance.
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     φ (fiore@brain.worm.pink)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 17:02:48 JST φ

     in pedo civilization , youre a pretty girl when your face is like the one pf a child , and men find it hot to have the same power over you that a groomer has