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   whiteline (whiteline@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 05:16:29 JST whiteline
   for the americans, this is a very good summary of the current european perspective
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 05:16:29 JST Fish of Rage

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     @whiteline Why aren't anybody committing direct military support
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 05:19:54 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • Fish of Rage
     @sun @whiteline because it's all performative
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 05:20:15 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @griffith @whiteline honestly, not a bad thing if you can laugh at them
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     Griffith (griffith@0.5dollah.click)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 05:20:16 JST Griffith

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     @whiteline Americans love being talked down to by people dependent on us and substantially weaker than us.

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     Griffith (griffith@0.5dollah.click)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 05:22:25 JST Griffith

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     • Johnny Peligro

     @mischievoustomato @whiteline The joke will be on them.

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     whiteline (whiteline@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 05:33:18 JST whiteline

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     • Fish of Rage
     @sun leaving all else aside basically we don't have a federal government that can just say "we go to war now", and individual countries will not say "we go to war now", it all has to be coordinated
     
     NATO would be the mechanism for this but it's now considered subverted, so what will seemingly happen is that something akin to an EU army will be formed, excluding nations like turkey or hungary that are not really loyal to our cause, values and interests
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 05:33:18 JST Fish of Rage

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     @whiteline Very clearly Ukraine would not win without help from Europe so I am not sure what people are even doing
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     whiteline (whiteline@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 05:33:19 JST whiteline

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     • Fish of Rage
     @sun because that would mean war against a nuclear power
     
     also a strong preference for unilateral military action considering the circumstances
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     Thomas Magnum (leyonhjelm@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 06-Mar-2025 06:07:05 JST Thomas Magnum

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     @sun
     
     As far as I know the entire Western political angle on Ukraine is to make sure Russia is the bad guy. Winning and losing the war is not a significant factor. The West will spin it either way and because most Western countries are full of people who cannot understand Russian or even sound out a word in Cyrillic letters, it'll work unless they fumble really hard. And Europe is doing exactly that when it comes to how they're dealing with Trump not being a team player.
     
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