Aral Balkan
Anything you say or do on Firefox may be used by Mozilla against you. You have the right to use a different browser. If you cannot find a browser that doesn’t fuck you over one way or another, one will not be provided for you because capitalism is working exactly as designed.
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-terms-of-use/
#Mozilla #Firefox #TermsOfUse #SiliconValley #BigTech #USA #AI
Aral Balkan
@Hache @Waterfox No, they can’t dictate terms of use for forks without violating their own open source license.
Hache☕
@aral I have a question here, does this also apply to Firefox forks? (I'm afraid the answer is yes...)
CC: @Waterfox
Waterfox
@Hache @aral this doesn’t apply to us, we have our own privacy policy. But bear in mind if you use a Mozilla account/sync you still have to know the terms for those services.
Just from a cursory glance it doesn’t seem there’s anything egregious with the terms of use or privacy policy update - is there anything specific that sticks out? Legally companies have to provide a privacy policy; terms of use aren’t necessary but just seems to state what is already the case.
Aral Balkan
@Waterfox @Hache Mozilla jumps into AI… and now this 🤔. I’m not into giving Silicon Valley tech companies the benefit of the doubt.
Aral Balkan
@wonkothesane * A not-for-profit that owns a half-a-billion dollar a year for-profit that gets its half-a-billion dollars a year from Google.
Michael Santaly
@aral Another good reminder that just because something is lead by a non-profit does not mean it has inherent ethics or the interests of its consumers in mind
Aral Balkan
@messaroundmarx 🤷♂️
At least they’re open source so you should be able to see exactly what information is being collected if you dive into the code.
Mess around Marx
@aral
Does that mean, if i type something into a mask on an encrypted website (https), that Mozilla can read it?
Aral Balkan
@maniajack Mozilla is a not-for-profit that owns a half-a-billion dollar a year for-profit that gets its half-a-billion dollars a year from Google.
Or, as their head of public policy once told me: “Why are you being so hard on us? We’re just another Silicon Valley tech company.”
🤷♂️
maniajack
@aral I don't quite understand the hate of Firefox, was their "update" directed at your sentiment? Mozilla is a nonprofit and they're of course not going to be perfect but they're kind of the last game in town since Google took over all the browser backends? I see a lot of "go to librewolf" but would they have enough support to maintain the browser if FF died?
Aral Balkan
@jazzonbike This is Brave: https://basicattentiontoken.org/
Jazzonbike
@aral What's about Brave as an alternative?
Aral Balkan
@jazzonbike So did I.
Jazzonbike
@aral Sorry, meant the Brave Browser https://brave.com/
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