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   nugger@poa.st's status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 01:21:06 JST nugger
   TO SOME EXTENT THE WEST BANK WAS PRESENTED AS THIS ALTERNATIVE TO GAZA, "THE GOOD, PEACEFUL PALESTINIANS"
   
   "LOOK HOW GOOD WE'LL TREAT YOU IF YOU JUST STOP FIGHTING"
   
   THIS ATTACK IS PARTIALLY BECAUSE THEY DONT NEED THAT ANYMORE, AND PARTLY BECAUSE DESPITE IT ALL THEY'RE BROWN PEOPLE FULL OF CHILDISH SPITE AND WANT TO LASH OUT AFTER THEY LOST IN GAZA AND LEBANNON
   
   LET'S SEE WHAT THE FALLOUT OF THIS WILL BE
   IDK HOW WELL IRAN ETC CAN REACH WEST BANK WITH CADRES AND SUPPLIES BUT CLEARLY THIS ISN'T JUST GONNA BE CONSEQUENCE FREE FOR THE BAD GUYS
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 01:21:05 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @nugger some say that Trumps ukie deal was about Iran in actuality
     putin gets ukraine but needs to stop cooperating with iran (they did that once before where they made some kind of deal with russia that included them joining the sanctions)
     
     pivoting to iran war was always the chuddie prediction of this term of the presidency anyways, so they might just be getting started early
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     Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 01:22:22 JST Chinese man ? #nobot

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     @WandererUber @nugger >putin gets ukraine but needs to stop cooperating with iran
     
     This implies that zog has cards to negotiate with. russia is happy to keep this "war" going for another 4 years
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 01:29:30 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @IAMAL_PHARIUS @nugger then why did they agree to peace talks at all?
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     @WandererUber @nugger because zog is offering good enough terms
     
     like: all nations that joined nato after 1991 will lose membership, strategic win for russia on their own home front
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     Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 01:55:25 JST Chinese man ? #nobot

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     @WandererUber @nugger NATO isnt offering that deal, america is. this is why the euros are mad. remember that merkel and macron did not want a war, they wanted to trade with russia and build up a EU army without americans after the CIA did brexit.
     
     2014 maidan was america CIA/NED/USAID, obama sent arms to ukraine, ukraine starts shelling, trump cleared javelin sales and biden trained Azov battalion. NS2 got blownup without clearing anything with NATO.
     
     Nato members despite what the EU unelected puppets say has been dragged into this. even german commanders refused to send what little they had on grounds that "oh they were all broken" (2022 metal box scandal)
     
     right now, america doesnt have the funding needed to keep USAID alive, pursuing a proxy war with no clear benefits, europe dont have money to enrich washington anymore so theres a 180 spin.
     
     what it needs is russia to play ball with them so america can go after former allies without russia getting in the way. america needs to sell natural resources and having russia pick up output at the same time will hurt america.
     
     SO. america is offering up a useless piece of colony(eastern europe), influence in a generationally poor, deindustralised, destabiliezed region for just that. thats the card they have right now and trump either plays it or eat rocks while russia remains hostile in a asymmetric way.
     
     benefit for russia is they get to keep their security intact which was their primary goal for the last 25 years.
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 01:55:26 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @IAMAL_PHARIUS @nugger That would be worse than just pulling the plug on Ukie war funding.
     
     Ukraine loses (for one reason or another):
     Russia gets the territory it wants
     
     Peace deal, your terms:
     Russia gets the territory it wants
     NATO strategically weakened
     
     Why would NATO even offer that deal?
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:29:26 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @IAMAL_PHARIUS @WandererUber @nugger I imagine zog has cards to negotiate with, but we just haven't had to see them yet.
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     Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:33:35 JST Chinese man ? #nobot

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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @sickburnbro @WandererUber @nugger russia has had its foreign reserves stolen, sanctioned almost into north korea tier, diplomatically isolated by its former main trade partner.
     
     what can America actively do to ruin russia's day outside of sending a zip bomb to yandexgo
     
     at this point even visa and mastercard wants back in.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:38:44 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @IAMAL_PHARIUS @WandererUber @nugger I'm not sure, NAFO really did try and put very near to maximum available pressure. But the reason I try to be cautious is that it's better to assume they have something.
     
     I think at this point it's probably mostly carrot rather than stick, but given that the US hasn't directly militarily intervened, that's still an unknown.
     
     If I had to take a stab at what they would have it would be maybe something like "play along or we make China's life hard in Africa, and then they ask you to do something"
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     Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:45:25 JST Chinese man ? #nobot

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     @sickburnbro @WandererUber @nugger russia will never do something in africa for china. not military anyway. vice versa.
     
     syria "WAS" a thing but that ship sailed lmao. theres nothing left, unless trump orders a total war for funnies, us dont have enough to fight iran, you think they want to really try it on russia?
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     Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:47:44 JST Chinese man ? #nobot

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     @WandererUber @nugger
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:47:45 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @IAMAL_PHARIUS @nugger I don't think this is it
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:51:21 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @IAMAL_PHARIUS @WandererUber @nugger my guess is that pressure on their Belt and Road would be what would be most obvious in terms of low impact high reward. It has the advantage of working to keep Russia and China separate.
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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @WandererUber @nugger "we ran out of spare parts entschuldigung"
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:53:10 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @IAMAL_PHARIUS @WandererUber @nugger turns out it's hard to make them when you shut all your nuclear power down and try to use solar in northern europe
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     Ulysses (professionalbigot69@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:57:56 JST Ulysses

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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @sickburnbro @IAMAL_PHARIUS @WandererUber @nugger >vote in grün
     >no energy to manufacture... anything
     >still decide to continue voting grün
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:57:56 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @professionalbigot69 @IAMAL_PHARIUS @WandererUber @nugger I do love grün is as color word though, groooon
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 02:59:41 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     • Ulysses
     @professionalbigot69 @sickburnbro @IAMAL_PHARIUS @nugger If you guys are really going to make this about energy there's two things to consider one is that the greens weren't the ones turning the reactors off and electricity is expensive in europe not because of production cost but because of insanely high taxes on it, so even a $0.01 increase in cost or something balloons out of control for the consumer. I'm not gonna relitigate the whole renewables thing tho, germany has energy problems no doubt.
     
     (and also wind and solar are decentralized which is kino and good in a war)
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     @WandererUber @professionalbigot69 @IAMAL_PHARIUS @nugger If they started making tanks with solar power, they'd tax it through the nose too. They wanted to deindustrialize and muh climate was simply the tool they used to do it
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     Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 03:00:12 JST Chinese man ? #nobot

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     @sickburnbro @WandererUber @nugger NS2 detonated in sept 2022, nuclear plants shut down in april 2023
     
     german commanders gave the "we have no parts left" dec 2022
     
     this was after nato tried to call out their lies because germany refused to send arms. "i saw you fucks in the metal bawks just last week"
     
     you dont run out spare parts in two months, they arent fighting a war, it was a lie by loyal germans.
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 03:05:19 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @IAMAL_PHARIUS @sickburnbro @nugger you're mixing up a lot of things. When they asked Germany for tanks first it was the Leopoard ONE, which were decomissioned already at that point. Not the Leopard 2 for which you posted the chart of who bought it. (Leopard 2 transfer came after and had less delays)
     The PUMA from that article is the German infantry fighting vehicle, like a Bradley, and it is notorious for being high-maintenance, much worse than the Leopard.
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     @WandererUber @sickburnbro @nugger https://www.politico.eu/article/tanks-kaput-germany-military-defense-minister-christine-lambrecht/
     
     >Germany’s main battle tank, known as the Leopard II, also took part in the recent exercises and performed much better, the general reported. (German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has also blocked the transfer of Leopards to Ukraine, arguing that the U.S. has also held off sending battle tanks.)
     
     article covers it. zog was asking for everything at that time, from jets to Anti air
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 03:08:33 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @IAMAL_PHARIUS @sickburnbro @nugger Yep, looks like it. but it also gives an answer, does it not?
     Different from what you were implying, the Germans said
     "The US has to send M1 Abrams if they want us to send Leopard 2"
     So it was an internal quibble about who is paying his fair share and who isn't. Not some German loyalists or whomever trying to protect their precious tanks.
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     @WandererUber @sickburnbro @nugger before this point Germany only sent money, meds and "trainers", scholz was very adamant into not sending heavy arms in case russia tries a peace deal.
     
     >Ukraine Peace Talks Remain Distant Even as Moscow Signals a Retreat President Biden and European leaders say they cannot push Ukraine and Russia into negotiations, though some U.S. lawmakers are questioning aid for an open-ended war. NYT Nov. 9, 2022
     
     >The emergency meeting follows the leak of an email from a senior commander to the head of the Bundeswehr armed forces, in which he laments the sorry state of his division’s infantry fighting vehicles.
     
     >During a recent exercise, all 18 participating Puma infantry fighting vehicles broke down.
     
     i mean... you really believe that?