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   HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 01:10:18 JST HebrideanHecate

   • RadicalCartoons

   @RadicalCartoons Doesn't help, but the narrative of you can have it all, including babies in your 40s and 50s horse piss that has been doing the rounds for years now doesn't help any either.

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     RadicalCartoons (radicalcartoons@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 01:10:17 JST RadicalCartoons

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     @HebrideanHecate It's a cart-and-horse issue. Imagine if women had genuine freedom of choice to have babies in their 20s, when they are young & healthy, alongside their education (why can't a huge organisation like a University have a bloody creche, for example?
     If salaries actually WERE a "living wage" so that both partners didnt need to work when the children were small.
     If job-shares and part time work paid decent money. If we weren't all taxed to the eyeballs.
     
     We all know what's wrong, (Capitalism) these are classic feminist talking points. Can't believe we still have to talk about them in 2025!
     Back in the 1980s, we all though we'd be sending our personal robots out to work, by now!
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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 01:17:58 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @RadicalCartoons @HebrideanHecate I'm glad I had mine in my 20s. I loved being at home with them and didn't regret it at all. It did cost me a *career* (ha!) in teaching because the culture them was if you hadn't made senior management by your early 30s then forget it. But I was able to fit work around family with some childminding and some mutual support from other mums.
     I think some feminism didn't help because it compared men and women in ways that were not compatible. Men and women are of equal worth, but we are not alike. It also told women that they had to be like men to be equal instead of supporting women to choose the path that was best for them. There was a sneering at mums (and dads) that opted to be the stay-at-home one.
     The ones that really annoyed me were the *have it all* mums - they held down a 6 figure salary job while having five children and baking their own bread. What they always failed to mention was the support system of women (cleaners, childcare etc) that underpinned it.
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     HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 02:09:39 JST HebrideanHecate

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     @KeepTakingTheSoma @RadicalCartoons I hate the anti mother "feminism", feminism my arse. See also the classism of what you mention there too. The snotty middle class wank thing while happily exploiting poorer women, see also surrogacy now.

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