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@RehnyNytes256
Me too! If we remain in faith in Christ, we will get that special someone, whether in this life or the next.
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@whiteman_ @SuperSnekFriend @JeffGrimesArt the apostle paul did not describe singleness as a gift.
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@branman65 @whiteman_ @SuperSnekFriend @JeffGrimesArt errrm ackshually
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@SuperSnekFriend @JeffGrimesArt The Apostle Paul literally said singleness is a gift if he is doing more for the Lord
It is also a gift compared to dealing eith Modern women.
However all things have tribulation
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@JeffGrimesArt @SuperSnekFriend There is no marriage in heaven for those in heaven shall be like Angels. That is what Jesus said to the pharisees too. However, marriage and singleness are both gifts in their own respect as long as one does the will of God
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@whiteman_ @JeffGrimesArt
Singleness is not a gift. It is suffering, Mosley. It is not good for man to be alone without a wife.
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There is no marriage in Heaven. So death beforehand, to me, would be an utter failure.
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@BowsacNoodle @branman65 @whiteman_ @JeffGrimesArt
errrm ackshually I Bond burgered your sister last night
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@SuperSnekFriend @JeffGrimesArt @branman65 @whiteman_ License To Vril.
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@whiteman_ @JeffGrimesArt
No, he did not. He called miraculous continence, a super natural lack of desire, a gift.
If it is a gift from God, why then demand women under sixty, including widows, to marry in 1 Tim 5:16? Fighting against God and His gifts is unwise as it is sinful. But Scripture cannot be broken, so one of us is taking from an interpretive tradition that is wrong.
>However all things have tribulation
"The blessing of the LORD makes rich, and he adds no sorrow with it." (Prov. 10:22)
This implicitly Protestant anti-marriage and anti-sex theology is one reason why the visible church is suffering and losing in the West.
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@SuperSnekFriend @whiteman_ @JeffGrimesArt I don't want to take too creative of an interpretation on this, but is it possible the message to Timothy was a correction because people heard the past one and went too ham on celibacy to absurdity? Marriage is a gift from God. Paul does state that better to remain single then gives like four paragraphs of explanation and nuance on that point. Even today (especially today) people become retarded when nuance is involved in anything.
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@branman65 @whiteman_ @SuperSnekFriend @JeffGrimesArt You're taking a bad interpretation of it. If you desire marriage, then you're automatically out of the target audience of what Paul meant. Instead of attacking people who do have the gift of celibacy, which is what you are doing implicitly right now and have frequently done explicitly, you should recognize that it doesn't pertain to you. We are not all blessed with all gifts and that does not make us broken or bad or inferior in any way.
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@branman65 @SuperSnekFriend @JeffGrimesArt 1 Corinthians 7:7
However though he was focusing on the key point about how you are better off just focusing on the lord.
Yet he also says if you are easily tempted for sexual conduct better to marry
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@branman65 @SuperSnekFriend @JeffGrimesArt Singleness is a gift as is life. But like these gifts it can feel like a curse (I feel that my life is a curse right now)
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@whiteman_ @SuperSnekFriend @JeffGrimesArt that's a lie
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@BowsacNoodle @whiteman_ @JeffGrimesArt
>but is it possible the message to Timothy was a correction because people heard the past one and went too ham on celibacy to absurdity?
Timothy was the preacher at Ephesus at the time of receiving the two epistles. It is not known if the Corinthian letters were yet circulated to Ephesus and other churches, though it may be possible due to the lateness of writing 1 & 2 Timothy in Paul's career.
There is no indication in the first letter that Timothy's church is experiencing external pressures and internal strife that demands direct and heavy correction, like the Corinthian church, minus the unspoken episode of Hymenaeus and Alexander. In fact, Paul seems satisfied by Timothy's performance as a pastor of the Ephesian flock. As such, most of the first epistle is more of specific instructions that Paul wants to enure that Timothy follows, prior to Paul martyrdom. 5:16, being one of those instructions, is not a correction, especially since Paul addressed problem activities and doctrines as such (ex. "I heard reports about fighting among you " "I went to Jerusalem and oppose [Cephas] to his face").
Also, consider 5:11, which can easily and quickly misinterpreted or outright abused to say that the desire for being married draws women away from Christ, when that is not what Paul meant. That Paul would use that unclear language again after Corinthians would distort the Spirit's message and defeat the whole point, if a corrective purpose of 5:16 is in purview. Nobody but the most silliest of celibacy extremist had abused or abuses 5:11, as 4:3 and 5:16 would immediately crucify that argument and expose that person as a bad exegete and teacher of the text.
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@SuperSnekFriend @JeffGrimesArt @whiteman_ I wonder if culture played a part in it then. Did Ephesus have a fertility cult issue at the time? That's in the Turkey area, so quite possibly considering everything else that's gone down there.
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@SuperSnekFriend @JeffGrimesArt @whiteman_ Got it, that makes sense! So it was analogous to the former partier becoming a teetotaler and advocate for prohibition rather than simply discontinuing his personal drinking— reactionary overcorrection. Many such cases.
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@BowsacNoodle @JeffGrimesArt @whiteman_
>Did Ephesus have a fertility cult issue at the time?
It was one of THE places for fertility cults as it was the location of the main temple for Diana/Artemis, a goddess of fertility as well female celibacy if you know your Greek myths about Artemis.
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