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    Brodie Robertson (brodieonlinux@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 07:19:27 JST Brodie Robertson Brodie Robertson

    Every time Rust comes up I see comments like "Rust people should fork the kernel" which is an absolutely insane statement

    Firstly: It's hard enough to fork a terminal let alone one of the biggest FOSS code bases

    Secondly: People want to improve the thing others actually use

    In conversation Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 07:19:27 JST from mstdn.social permalink
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      Brodie Robertson (brodieonlinux@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 07:22:37 JST Brodie Robertson Brodie Robertson
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      There's this stupid meme that's spread around that because you can fork a code base, the solution to every problem in FOSS is to fork the code base. No if you care about the longevity of the project then forking should be your absolute last resort after everything else fails.

      In conversation Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 07:22:37 JST permalink
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      Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 07:37:19 JST Wolf480pl Wolf480pl
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      @BrodieOnLinux OTOH, forking was supposed to be the ultimate safeguard of FOSS against bad leadership.

      If forking a project is not viable, that should be a red flag that the project is too big / complex / something else went wrong.

      But yeah I agree that it's a lot of work, and it's preferable to try other solutions first.

      In conversation Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 07:37:19 JST permalink
      Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: and Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: like this.
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      Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 07:50:42 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
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      • Wolf480pl
      @wolf480pl @BrodieOnLinux We should fork the US government. :blobfoxgooglytrash:
      In conversation Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 07:50:42 JST permalink
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      Kevin Russell (kevinrns@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 08:15:42 JST Kevin Russell Kevin Russell
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      @BrodieOnLinux

      Maybe we can hurd the kernel forks together.

      In conversation Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 08:15:42 JST permalink
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      Brodie Robertson (brodieonlinux@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 09:27:27 JST Brodie Robertson Brodie Robertson
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      • Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:
      • Matěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦

      @Conan_Kudo @mcepl Realistically everyone develops a code base in a soft fork and then they're merged into Linus' tree, and there are soft forks that do gain a life of there own

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      Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora: (conan_kudo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 09:27:28 JST Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora: Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:
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      • Matěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦

      @mcepl @BrodieOnLinux Strictly speaking, that's not completely true. All the major Linux distributions have their own "trees of truth":

      - Red Hat with CKI: https://gitlab.com/cki-project/kernel-ark
      - SUSE with their thing: https://github.com/SUSE/kernel/tree/stable
      - Canonical with Ubuntu Sauce: https://kernel.ubuntu.com/forgejo/ubuntu-kernel-next/linux

      In truth, they are derived from Linus' tree, but Linus isn't the direct upstream for these distributions.

      In conversation Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 09:27:28 JST permalink

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      Matěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦 (mcepl@en.osm.town)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Feb-2025 09:27:29 JST Matěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦 Matěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦
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      @BrodieOnLinux

      Plus, with absolute 100% certainty all relevant distros would ignore the forked kernel. Linux kernel is https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/ and nobody cares about anything else.

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