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   Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:17:05 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

   • Insane Eagle Sun
   @sun What version of Pleroma do you have over there? :blobfoxthink:
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:17:04 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @tk develop branch
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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:18:49 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun What rev?
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:18:49 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @tk I don't know because technically we have our own branch that I merge develop into
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:18:54 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun @tk and FE?
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:19:20 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @hj @tk we're definitely not on latest because we don't have the new themes
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:19:37 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun @tk will you?
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:20:11 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
     @hj @tk my users aren't gonna be able to cope with a loading screen
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:20:35 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @hj @tk I will NEVER hear the end of it
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:21:00 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun @tk rip
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:22:31 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun @tk are you gonna fork it or what?
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:22:58 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @hj @tk I guess I'll just keep the old FE
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:23:42 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun @tk don't want to guilt trip but sounds a bit selfish
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:24:00 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @hj @tk explain
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:25:04 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun @tk in a minute, videogaming rn
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:25:07 JST lainy

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun @tk @hj I find it pretty irritating too, but the picture is very cute
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:26:00 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @hj @tk ok, whenver convenient, I'll listen
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:35:25 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @i @tk @piggo @sun @lain it will happen every time but it shouldn't take too long. If it does then there's something wrong with the caching - please report, we'll investigate.
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:35:26 JST :blank:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @piggo @tk @hj @sun suggested a loading screen and the mad lads actually did it, didn't expect it to become something that happens literally every time though
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     Piggo :verified_horse: (piggo@piggo.space)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:35:27 JST Piggo :verified_horse:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun @tk @hj a WHAT? guess its a blessing i never update huuuuh
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:46:10 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • lainy
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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun @tk @lain @i @piggo ok, so.
     
     First of all, loading screen shouldn't take too long every time, only the first time user opens the page. In fact cache isn't even invalidated afterwards unless we change something in the theme engine. When cache is done splashscreen takes less than a second. If it's too slow we can speed it up. :afloofLoad:
     
     Second, the "selfish" bit I mentioned is a comment on "i will never hear the end of it", i have to deal with my users too, but maybe they are too complacent with whatever I feed them and/or don't report it. :floofMug:
     
     Third, why didn't you tell me about this sooner? Don't you hate it when people nonchalantly deliver you important news with considerable delay? :floofAngry:
     
     Fourth - yes it is selfish for FE to take time to complie themes, but themes is one of the reasons people like pleromafe (look at every instance ever that have them customized, even SP[WC] minions theme, and Themes2 was getting very hard to maintain and very limited and hard to work with from user side. Nobody stopped me, and I wish they did, it fucking sucks working almost alone. :floofCry:
     
     Lastly, should we just revert themes 3 entirely? I can take that mental damage, don't worry :floofLol: (do worry :floofNervous:)
     nomentalbreakdowns.webp
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:48:21 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @i @tk @lain @piggo @sun does it still show "Applying theme, please wait warmly..." when it does that? Anything else in console?
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:48:22 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     • lainy
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     • Piggo :verified_horse:
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     @hj @tk @i @lain @piggo we haven't udpated so I just see it on other people's servers.
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:48:22 JST :blank:

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     • lainy
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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @hj @tk @lain @piggo @sun already reported one issue, but a fresh build of develop still takes ~4 seconds to load even when it says it's getting "Loaded theme from cache, compressed=237kiB size=7117kiB"
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:49:28 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • lainy
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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @i @lain @piggo @sun @tk ok it's a firefox issue because of course it is :cat_tired:
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:55:12 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @i @tk @lain @piggo @sun ok that means something else is taking the time, not themes. Can you open performace tab in devtools, record profile and send it my way?
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 07:55:13 JST :blank:

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     • lainy
     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @hj @tk @lain @piggo @sun css ok, loading... for a long time, drink more water
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 08:24:25 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @i @tk @lain @piggo @sun best i can tell is that firefox struggles to insert that fuckton of CSS we feed it. Will investigate further unless there is a consensus that it should be reverted altogether
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 08:24:28 JST :blank:

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     • lainy
     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @hj @tk @lain @piggo @sun here's two restarts worth of json
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 08:28:51 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • lainy
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     • Piggo :verified_horse:
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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @i @lain @piggo @sun @tk can you check if it does the same on both firefox and chrome?
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 08:35:51 JST :blank:

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     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @hj @tk @lain @piggo @sun my default is chrome, but on firefox it's even worse, and it says applying theme instead of loading
     
     themes v3 does seem like a nice addition overall, but a way to ship a default precompiled css file would really help
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 08:37:56 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     • lainy
     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
     • Piggo :verified_horse:
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     @i @tk @lain @piggo @hj fwiw nothing ideological going on here, I'll install it when it doesn't do this
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 08:38:28 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @i @tk @lain @piggo @sun basically cache is that precompiled CSS but it currently needs to be compiled on user side. I'm afraid we won't get admin pre-compilation until we get fe-specific-settings-in-fe-admin-dashboard, which would happen much later, after config refactor.
     
     @sun can I ask you to keep both versions of FE? Just to see how people ACTUALLY react to it
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 08:39:41 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     • lainy
     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
     • Piggo :verified_horse:
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     @hj @tk @i @lain @piggo yes
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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @sun @tk @i @lain @piggo thank you, i owe you
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     • Insane Eagle Sun
     @i @tk @lain @piggo @sun found two issues benchmarking on my phone
     
     1) pako (compression library we're using) takes 1 whole second to decompress the cache while it takes 65ms on desktop. I'm gonna try just not compressing and storing 5mb cache as is since we're using IndexedDB which doesn't have size restrictions.
     
     2) it seems that cache isn't actually generated until theme is FULLY applied so rapidly refreshing always compiles the theme. Also will fix.