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Shlomo (shlomo@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:27:26 JST 
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Youre threatening your neighbour like a fucking nigger. What did you expect would happen you orange monkey. - nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: likes this.
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penguin (penguin@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:27:25 JST 
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『g r e y』 :uv: ☦️ (grey@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:50:08 JST 
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@Shlomo Everyone involved in this trade war is a faggot. Trudeau doesn't give two shits about the Canadian people, and his counter-tarrifs are impotent and only hurt us. They're already prepping the money printers for another "bailout" like the pandemic was, because the leadership up here wants to destroy the currency, and Trump is just giving them an excuse to. Even being annexed by the US would be better than this shit. AlabasterBrick ?☠️ likes this. -
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Shlomo (shlomo@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:51:48 JST
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@grey In a sane world Canada would block all trades with the US and focus on Europe instead. All roads should be blocked until further notice. Ban travel between the nations. Dont forge to redirect every pipeline to Europe and Russia while at it. -
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『g r e y』 :uv: ☦️ (grey@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:51:48 JST
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@Shlomo Canada is not a serious country, though. You can't apply how a normal, serious healthy country would behave to this country. What's going to happen is the government is going to posture and preen about "standing up to mean old Mr. Trump" and suck each other off while devaluing our currency even further. The Liberals have at every turn tried to destroy our resource extraction industries, so the pipelines that would have helped get oil to the east cost for export to Europe were never built because Trudeau hates Alberta. Literally, they refuse to send federal help to Alberta during wildfires simply because they are petty losers. It's all petty gay feminine bullshit that runs this country. AlabasterBrick ?☠️ likes this. -
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sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:53:58 JST 
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@Shlomo you'd be right if and only if Canada had anything worth buying. Expect a US "intervention" in Venezuela within the next year to secure their oil fields before they go to war with Guyana and that'll make Canada actually worthless AlabasterBrick ?☠️ likes this. -
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Parker Banks (parker@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:10 JST 
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@tadano @Shlomo @grey @jeffcliff
Non government jobs exist?✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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Parker Banks (parker@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:11 JST
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@jeffcliff @Shlomo @grey
>You know I was invited to work on the green party of canada's strategy team during that period of time
Good for you. I work at an environmental company a certified Aboriginal Business under the Canadian Council for Aboriginal Business, whose owner has Indian status, which works with both oil and gas companies and government regulators. So if we can both put aside our appeals to authority, that would be great. -
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Tadano (tadano@mt.watamelon.win)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:11 JST 
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@parker @grey @Shlomo @jeffcliff Two leafs argue about the economy, citing their past experience for rhetorical reasons. They both work for the government. :guratopkek:
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:12 JST 
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@parker @Shlomo @grey
> t was the the native reserves that were involved with the pipeline. They're not a bunch of hippies that want to run free with the buffalo.
Sure. And they wanted a cut if they were going to have their areas put in danger, and most of them were willing to negotiate if the government gave them the ability to do so rather than just putting the pipeline on their land with no input (see: what harper would have done and what people like nugger would probably think the government should do). But the economics of actually negotiating with them didn't make sense, which is why TC dropped the idea.
> Conversely, it was American organizations funding much of the opposition to that pipeline. Because they profit from our dependence.
As they should, because the atmosphere doesn't stop at the border.
> All your doing is repeating lines developed by foreign interests under the guise of environmental sustainability.
You know I was invited to work on the green party of canada's strategy team during that period of time, right? We were the ones developing those lines. Thunder Bay, which had a green MP at the time, was where the opposition happened.
> Quebec not wanting Alberta oil didn't mean they stopped using oil.
They also didn't accelerate as much as cheap albertan oil would have allowed, either.
> They've been more than happy to import from foreign countries with less environmental regulation.
Again; alberta systematically undermines environmental regulation both nationally and internationally do not feed me this bullshit
> Being dependent on and subject to foreign interests
Meanwhile Alberta allows and encourages direct investment from KSA and elsewhere and is basically a foothold for foreign influence in canada. Try this bullshit on someone who doesn't live in oil country. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:13 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@parker @Shlomo @grey
>. But lobby groups got in the way of local native interests.
Were these 'local native interests' the canadian government appointed bureaucracy by chance? Sounds like it.
> much more environmentally regulated produc
Yeah shove this ethical oil bullshit. Alberta has been a corrupting force on the regulations of the whole country for decades now and if they had their way the country would be no different than KSA -
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Parker Banks (parker@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:13 JST
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@jeffcliff @Shlomo @grey
It was the the native reserves that were involved with the pipeline. They're not a bunch of hippies that want to run free with the buffalo. They have business and livelihoods and want to make money same as everyone else, and income from the pipeline going through their land (where there was already an existing pipeline, so no new land was affected) is a big part of that.
Conversely, it was American organizations funding much of the opposition to that pipeline. Because they profit from our dependence. All you're doing is repeating lines developed by foreign interests under the guise of environmental sustainability.
Quebec not wanting Alberta oil didn't mean they stopped using oil. They've been more than happy to import from foreign countries with less environmental regulation. Being dependent on and subject to foreign interests who don't give a shit about natives or the environment is much less environmentally or indigenous friendly than just extracting and refining our own product. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:14 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@parker @Shlomo @grey And they make it so they didn't make sense in this case *because they put ecological regions across the country in danger* -
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Parker Banks (parker@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:14 JST
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@jeffcliff @Shlomo @grey They were using that kind of argument against the Trans Mountain pipeline despite the fact that all they were doing was twinning an existing pipeline, there wasn't additional risk when a pipeline was already there. And all the reservations we talked to wanted it built because the pipeline was a big part of their revenue stream. But lobby groups got in the way of local native interests.
Plus I don't see how eastern Canada importing oil from Saudi Arabia instead of their own domestic, much more environmentally regulated product, helps the environment at all. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:15 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@grey @Shlomo
From your own link: it wasn't trudeau who put a stop to it, it was TransCanada / TC. A private albertan company giving up on a project that didn't make sense. -
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Parker Banks (parker@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:15 JST
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@jeffcliff @Shlomo @grey Pipelines don't make sense when federal regulations make it so pipelines don't make sense. And Quebec being shits about it didn't help either. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:16 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Shlomo @grey
ah yes pipelines through *checks notes* the arctic ocean that is very smart -
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『g r e y』 :uv: ☦️ (grey@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:54:16 JST
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@jeffcliff @Shlomo They tried to build one to get oil to the east coast so it could be shipped overseas. Trudeau cancelled that because of his personal grudge against Alberta.
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