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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Feb-2025 21:46:30 JST 翠星石
   >F-droid was using a nonfree software to compile software since before 2017; https://web.archive.org/web/20170706235218if_/https://f-droid.org/docs/Installing_the_Server_and_Repo_Tools/
   Damn and the wayback machine doesn't go any further back...
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 04:27:54 JST SuperDicq

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     @sally@freesoftwareextremist.com @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com No, I really don't. Fdroid is honestly a pretty good project and they keep improving.
     
     Making a bunch of drama over shit not being 100% fully FSDG is pretty much pointless and unlikely to improve anything, especially on a worthless non-GNU/Linux such as Android anyway. Not worth the effort for me.
     
     GNU/Linux phones are a much better alternative to Android I think. If phones can ever be liberated in the first place because modems and shit suck.

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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (sally@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 04:27:57 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     @Suiseiseki
     
     cc @SuperDicq do you care?
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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (sally@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 04:27:59 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     @Suiseiseki
     
     You know what we should do? Write article about all dishonest and questionable things FDroid does.
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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (sally@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 04:28:01 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     Fun fact, if you mention such details on certain "open source" circles you'll get permabanned by they/them jannies.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 04:30:58 JST SuperDicq

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     @sally@freesoftwareextremist.com @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com all things considered I think Fdroid is pretty good relatively speaking.
     
     If you wanna go after a package manager I think your time would be much better spent making an extensive list of everything wrong with either Nix or Flathub or something I think.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 04:36:34 JST SuperDicq

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     @sally@freesoftwareextremist.com @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Like at least Fdroid does a good effort in trying to warn users about potential anti-features and such.
     
     Nix for example does none of that. There is not even a way to separate free and nonfree software in Nix. It never warns user either.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 08:03:06 JST SuperDicq

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     @taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @sally@freesoftwareextremist.com Nobody cares. Imagine actually defending Gleasonware.
     
     Just use Husky instead.

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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 08:03:07 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki @sally
     
     F-Droid also rejects apps in the main repo for not aligning with the gender-related ideologies of the maintainers. They had initially accepted, but then removed, the Spinster fedi client (a fork of Tusky).
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 08:13:06 JST SuperDicq

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     @taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @sally@freesoftwareextremist.com That's because trans-exclusionary feminism isn't feminism at all, it's a hate movement.

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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 08:13:07 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki @sally
     
     "First they came for the feminists, and I didn't say anything because I was not a feminist."
     
     Literally 1984.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 08:40:44 JST SuperDicq

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     @taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @sally@freesoftwareextremist.com In my opinion real feminists care about the civil rights of anyone and not just themselves above other groups. You know, equality and all?
     
     And why the hell do you support a "male-exclusionary movement not concerned with the issues of males" anyways?
     
     Cringe whiteknight

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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 08:40:46 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki @sally
     
     There is no such thing as trans-exclusionary feminism. You've been duped.
     
     There is proper feminism, which is naturally male-exclusionary, in the sense that it isn't concerned with the issues of males.
     
     Would be strange to expect the civil rights movement to care about issues faced by whites, the gay rights movement to care about issues faced by straights, or the disability rights movement to care about issues faced by able-bodied people.
     
     But women aren't allowed to have anything of their own.
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 08:42:45 JST Pissed Hippo

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     • Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
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     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki @sally @taylan why would you call yourself a "femin" ist then
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 09:01:05 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki @sally
     
     So you believe in "All Lives Matter" kind of stuff then? Minorities aren't allowed to have political movements solely in their own interest?
     
     Then I take it you don't support the transgender movement either, given that it's exclusionary of people who aren't trans?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 10:09:16 JST 翠星石

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     • Yomiel
     @yomiel @sally @SuperDicq >By default you can't install non-free packages
     Yes you can.
     
     By default the "@FREE" license set contains the nonfree Artistic 1.0 license, thus you can accidentally install nonfree Artistic 1.0 software unless you set ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE -Artistic"
     
     Many packages also have the incorrect license listed, for example every single Linux ebuild is marked as GPLv2-ambigious, even though Linux contains proprietary software with no source code.
     
     >The only thing I might change is an easier way to accept for singular packages.
     Absolutely degenerate.
     
     Yes, there is; /etc/portage/package.license
     
     >Many users may be required to accept BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE license as mandatory firmware (for their system)
     If you install proprietary software, it's no longer your system.
     
     It's *convenient* to load proprietary peripheral software - all systems I can think of will work without it, although you might need a decent Wi-Fi or Ethernet NIC to connect to the internet.
     
     >perhaps a one time accept may be better
     Is it really a one time accept if the proprietary software after install never gets removed, only updated?
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     Yomiel (yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 10:09:17 JST Yomiel

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     @sally @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq
     Gentoo is also great at doing this separation IMO. By default you can't install non-free packages, it informs the user the license of the package and then lets the user decide to set permission for the individual package or system wide. You can't accidentally use non-free on Gentoo.
     
     The only thing I might change is an easier way to accept for singular packages. Many users may be required to accept BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE license as mandatory firmware (for their system) and perhaps a one time accept may be better as often the user will opt to accept non-free licenses system wide rather than only one package.
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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (sally@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 10:09:18 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki
     
     I know Nix is a big piece of crap, you don't need to spell it for me. The solution for that is Guix though.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 10:16:32 JST 翠星石

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     @gabi >that the FSF recommends F-Droid
     It doesn't appear they do.
     
     The directory listing specifically recommends using the build server with a free SDK for example; https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/F-Droid_Server
     
     >Replicant >since F-Droid comes pre-installed in this distribution.
     F-Droid no longer comes pre-installed with Replicant.
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     GNU/Gabi (gabi@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 10:16:34 JST GNU/Gabi

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     >F-Droid is a robot with a passion for FOSS on the Android platform
     What is surprising?
     
     For me, the problem is that the FSF recommends F-Droid and approves Replicant as a libre distribution that is not GNU, even though it evidently does not meet one of the basic principles of the FSDG: no malware—since F-Droid comes pre-installed in this distribution.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 10:48:11 JST 翠星石

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     @gabi Those links point out that you don't have freedom on Android, although F-droid is less bad that google played store - such kind of recommendation is really fine.
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     GNU/Gabi (gabi@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 10:48:12 JST GNU/Gabi

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     I'll share some examples I found right now.
     https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/share-free-software-with-your-friends-and-colleagues
     https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v15/
     https://www.fsf.org/working-together/next-steps/free-software-for-android
     
     Richard Stallman himself has recommended the use of F-Droid.
     https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.en.html