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   feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 05:25:50 JST feld
   Every service here prevents you from being held hostage by a company that may turn on you and give you no recourse EXCEPT Signal
   
   Why does Signal get a free pass? Because they're a "non-profit" and they "promise" they won't do anything to betray you?
   
   Has that ever really worked in the last 30 years? Does anyone really believe it?
   
   Anyone?
   
   *Crickets*
   
   RT: https://mastodon.social/users/dansup/statuses/113924472016448705
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     Jonah Aragon (jonah@mastodon.neat.computer)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 05:55:32 JST Jonah Aragon

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     @feld because the only alternatives (Matrix, SimpleX, XMPP, Delta Chat) have such a worse user experience, unfortunately.

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 05:55:32 JST feld

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     • Jonah Aragon
     @jonah you need to revisit Delta Chat with a Chatmail server. It has a fantastic user experience now.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 05:58:12 JST feld

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     • Jonah Aragon
     @jonah we have apps now. In the chat. I use a shopping list app with my wife. We play games (Connect 4, Wordle, etc)
     
     Someone just ported DOOM to Delta Chat. Pops open in a new window on Desktop
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     Jonah Aragon (jonah@mastodon.neat.computer)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 06:03:05 JST Jonah Aragon

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     @feld lol I was just looking for what I had posted about DC to remember why I was so annoyed with it last year, and I just saw your reply.

     I am probably still annoyed with how easy it is to shoot yourself in the foot if you use your existing email provider, like I imagine many people would like to do, (and which is why I was happy when Signal removed SMS support) but I'll check it out again with Chatmail this time 👀

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 06:05:56 JST feld

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     • Jonah Aragon
     @jonah please please do. I don't know if it was my prodding or not, but it now makes it quite difficult to use a normal email address. It pushes you towards an anonymous chatmail account.
     
     like I said in the forum, they're doing some really cool stuff. It's not officially on the roadmap but they've mentioned they can make clients automatically register new anonymous Chatmail accounts across all the public Chatmail servers and rotate between them. So your account/address is disposable and you're a moving target. All your chats will keep working transparently though because of their AEAP implementation. (automatic email address porting)
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 07:27:49 JST feld

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     • Crispy Branzino
     @Nimbius666
     
     > don't know who you are
     
     Well, your phone number isn't a hint about who you are? But that's not what I'm talking about.
     
     They could backdoor clients in ways that only target specific individuals. There are a lot of different attacks they could do as they fully control the software and don't even support reproducible builds on iOS (difficult to do and prove, but not impossible. Requires a rooted/jailbroken phone to prove but it can be done. Telegram has a guide.)
     
     Ignoring the security perspective, they're gonna need a funding model that scales to a billion users. They don't have one. How happy are people gonna be when they have to pay for Signal?
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     Crispy Branzino (nimbius666@comp.lain.la)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 07:27:50 JST Crispy Branzino

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     @feld because theres effectively no way signal could block or ban you from the service as they dont know who you are or the content of your messages.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 08:13:57 JST feld

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     • Crispy Branzino
     @Nimbius666 I really don't trust Moxie
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     Crispy Branzino (nimbius666@comp.lain.la)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 08:13:58 JST Crispy Branzino

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     @feld ive always argued for decentralization but moxie closed all my tickets and said he's not interested.
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 08:14:47 JST Pissed Hippo

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     • Crispy Branzino
     @feld @Nimbius666 he's explained why he's against it (and everything he said happened to the fediverse) but yeah he gives bad vibes
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 08:18:29 JST feld

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     • Crispy Branzino
     • Pissed Hippo
     @sun @Nimbius666 he should be a forefront figure for the org and actively engaged with the users and community, spend more time explaining how and why they do things the way they do, actually respond to criticism, better explain what he's done to mitigate the epic fail that is Intel's SGX, etc
     
     I think he's essentially an NSA sockpuppet
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Feb-2025 08:21:27 JST Pissed Hippo

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     • Crispy Branzino
     @feld @Nimbius666 he seems prickly and aloof