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   Sally (sally@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 22:14:35 JST Sally
   Someone should release an LLM, license it under AGPL and then attach one of those bullshit ethical use policies that restrict usage.
   
   Why? Clueless people and pawns will see that policy and be happy that they're handcuffed, corporates and states will also see it and think all it's in order while avoiding it, because AGPL is too free. Meanwhile, freedom enjoyers that did read the license know that the policy means shit as it's defined as "further restrictions" and you're free to ignore it entirely and do as you want.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 22:14:34 JST 翠星石

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     @sally There are 3 AGPL versions - I assume you mean AGPLv3.
     
     You should not leave the version ambiguous, you should license AGPLv3-or-later.
     
     It is a bad way to treat people to attach two contradictory statements to software and regardless, if you are the copyright holder you could turn around and claim that the two contradictory terms apply and a court may agree (which means that freedom enjoyers probably won't use the software) and if you aren't the copyright holder, such act would be copyright infringement.
     
     LLM software licensed under the AGPLv3-or-later still wouldn't be free software, as the training processes produces software in a non-source form, with no source code.
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     Sally (sally@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 22:48:09 JST Sally

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     @Suiseiseki
     
     GPLv4 should address LLM terms to solve these issues.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 22:48:09 JST 翠星石

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     @sally A new license revision won't solve the problem of how LLM training doesn't produce source code.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 23:02:50 JST 翠星石

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     @sally By simply not using such proprietary software.
     
     LLMs are frankly not useful for anything but generating convincing-looking but meaningless text or fraud and I have no need for either.
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     Sally (sally@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 23:02:51 JST Sally

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     @Suiseiseki
     
     How would you handle the problem?