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    Jürgen Hubert (juergen_hubert@mementomori.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 02:30:38 JST Jürgen Hubert Jürgen Hubert

    One unique selling point of #Mastodon which we need to push more is how easy it is to move servers.

    I mean, how often have you heard about people being scared away from Mastodon because they have a hard time picking a server? This is not a condemnation of their hypothetical lack of technical aptitude - it's just that every other social media platform outside of the #Fediverse makes leaving as difficult as possible. You tie up a _lot_ of your online identity with a specific account, especially if you are a heavy user - and if you decide to leave an account, then you have to give up pretty much all of the connections you have made.

    Thus, picking "the wrong server" is something that can trigger considerable anxiety for those who've had to abandon social media platforms in the past - what if they pick badly, and need to start over?

    But even a lot of long-term Mastodon users don't know how easy it is to move - not only takes the process a mere half an hour or so, but you can also take all of your followers with you - their servers are notified, and they automatically move their subscription from your old to your new account without having to so a thing!

    I think this kind of easy account transferral is almost unprecedented with online services (and I can't think of any other examples - can you?), so it's not surprising that people don't think about this when facing the choice of picking a server.

    https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server/

    In conversation about 3 months ago from mementomori.social permalink
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      BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 02:30:35 JST BeAware BeAware
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      • volkris

      @volkris @juergen_hubert BlueSky isn't decentralized so moving platforms isn't even possible. Everything eventually goes through relays which only BlueSky hosts.

      It's actually not hard at all. Especially if you're moving from Mastodon to Mastodon instances.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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        Dominio hosts.it in vendita!
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      volkris@qoto.org's status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 02:30:36 JST volkris volkris
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      @juergen_hubert yeah, I think you're getting this exactly backwards.

      #Mastodon/#ActivityPub makes it way too hard to move instances. It's unfortunately a core problem with this platform, but we shouldn't pretend it's not.

      Other platforms like #BlueSky make it much easier, but #Fediverse is behind on this one.

      We need to recognize that as a rough edge, a legit reason users might choose another platform.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 10:53:04 JST BeAware BeAware
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      • volkris
      • ekana

      @ekana @volkris @juergen_hubert https://social.growyourown.services/@FediTips/113896029909649321 this thread has much evidence saying that this is currently not the case.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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        Fedi.Tips (@FediTips@social.growyourown.services)
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        Attached: 1 image I've had a lot of people ask how BlueSky compares to Mastodon and the Fediverse. I've tried to make the answer as simple and easy to understand as possible: 🦋 BlueSky is designed to give corporations and wealthy people full control of the network. All of its traffic has to flow through expensive-to-run corporate relays. :Fediverse: The Fediverse is designed to give ordinary people control of the network. All of its traffic flows directly from one cheap-to-run server to another. #FediTips
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      ekana (ekana@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 10:53:05 JST ekana ekana
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      • volkris
      • BeAware

      @BeAware @volkris @juergen_hubert Everything doesn't go through the relay, its up to app developers if they would like to do it via the big relay.

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      BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 12:05:01 JST BeAware BeAware
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      • ekana

      @ekana @volkris @juergen_hubert this picture, taken from the whtwnd.com website, says otherwise. 🤷♂️

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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        WhiteWind atproto blog
        WhiteWind is an atproto blog service that anyone with a Bluesky account can use for free, without providing any personal information. You can write blogs in Markdown syntax and publish them on the internet.

      2. https://beaware-mastodon.s3.us-east-005.backblazeb2.com/beaware-mastodon/media_attachments/files/113/909/413/152/768/912/original/02c9820ce192ec76.jpeg
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      ekana (ekana@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 12:05:02 JST ekana ekana
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      • BeAware

      @BeAware @volkris @juergen_hubert
      Unfortunately that post is full of misinformation about atproto. For example whtwnd.com, a popular atproto blogging platform, doesn't even use the relay.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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        WhiteWind atproto blog
        WhiteWind is an atproto blog service that anyone with a Bluesky account can use for free, without providing any personal information. You can write blogs in Markdown syntax and publish them on the internet.
      BeAware repeated this.
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      BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 12:15:49 JST BeAware BeAware
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      • volkris
      • ekana

      @ekana @volkris @juergen_hubert but it says whtwnd data goes through the relay, right there on the image.🤔

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      ekana (ekana@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 12:15:50 JST ekana ekana
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      • BeAware

      @BeAware @volkris @juergen_hubert this photo is talking about atproto in general. Whitewind as I understand just pulls directly from the PDS. Also there's already numerous non-archival relays that are cheap to run. For example Jetstream.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      ekana (ekana@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 12:17:59 JST ekana ekana
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      • BeAware

      @BeAware @volkris @juergen_hubert yes because all records get pulled into the relay no matter what. The client still pulls from the PDS directly.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 12:17:59 JST BeAware BeAware
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      • volkris
      • ekana

      @ekana @volkris @juergen_hubert right, it's the client, to the pds, to the relay. That's the issue, nobody can avoid the relay as it seems.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      ekana (ekana@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 12:21:22 JST ekana ekana
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      • volkris
      • BeAware

      @BeAware @volkris @juergen_hubert the relay is just an indexer. I'm not understanding your issue with it crawling the network. It's a utility to lower the cost of hosting a PDS.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 12:21:22 JST BeAware BeAware
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      • volkris
      • ekana

      @ekana @volkris @juergen_hubert personally, I don't, that's why I'm bridged. However, lots of people here don't want their data connected to VC backed companies cause they're known for using that data for nefarious purposes.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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