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   Ian Betteridge (ianb@mastodon.well.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 05:06:40 JST Ian Betteridge

   Here’s a bit of hope. Per capita carbon emission in the UK, now back down to 1859 levels. Work to do, but progress made.

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     Ian Betteridge (ianb@mastodon.well.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 21:06:29 JST Ian Betteridge

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     • Mark Koek

     @mkoek There is always something to be said for giving people hope. It has to be realistic and grounded, but oddly enough like all animals people get paralysed by hopelessness. Or, and this is worse, drift into ideologies which offer simple solutions based on personal action and having an enemy to blame (radical religions, the far right).

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     Mark Koek (mkoek@mastodon.nl)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 21:06:30 JST Mark Koek

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     @ianb responses to this are so typical - far too many activists refuse to understand how important good news is and absolutely insist on doom and gloom. Just so counterproductive.

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     Ian Betteridge (ianb@mastodon.well.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 23:52:24 JST Ian Betteridge

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     • Pandanus

     @pandanus of course! But population is hard to change quickly enough to make much more difference. Everything depends on moving per capita down. We won’t change anything unless we focus on it.

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     Pandanus (pandanus@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 23:52:25 JST Pandanus

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     @ianb I have some bad news about that. The UK population has tripled since 1859.

     Emissions per capita is well known as a reliable whitewash for stats in Greenie circles because no-one really believes the size of population increase since the early 1800’s.

     “ humanity’s greatest failing is our inability to understand the exponential function” Albert A Bartlett

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     Ian Betteridge (ianb@mastodon.well.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 23:53:06 JST Ian Betteridge

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     • Mike

     @mfphotograph We can’t meaningfully affect population. So yes, it really is.

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     Mike (mfphotograph@techhub.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 23:53:07 JST Mike

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     @ianb terrific, but per capita isn’t really what matters.

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     Ian Betteridge (ianb@mastodon.well.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 23:53:20 JST Ian Betteridge

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     • Derek Robson

     @Robsonde Bloody hell that Qatar number

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     Derek Robson (robsonde@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 23:53:21 JST Derek Robson

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     @ianb for some more context:

     Co2 tons per capita.

     Global 4.8

     NZ 6.3
     China 8.8
     USA 14.21
     Qatar 35.48

     Source of data: https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/