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   Matthew Fennell (matthew@social.fennell.dev)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 03:16:02 JST Matthew Fennell

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   • ij
   • Metin Seven 🎨
   • Jesper Zedlitz

   @ij @jze @metin I think we need better terminology for open networks.

   Christine Lemmer-Webber wrote a great post (https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/) which defines "federated" vs "decentralised".

   Would you agree to these statements?:

   Matrix and XMPP are federated.

   The XMPP network is less centralised than the Matrix network (in terms of clients, server operators, who drives protocol development etc).

   I feel some people really value decentralisation (🤚) but others are ok as long as there is federation

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     ij (ij@nerdculture.de)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 03:16:04 JST ij

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     • Metin Seven 🎨
     • Jesper Zedlitz

     @jze @metin I tend too disagree. Yes you can run your own server. I do myself.
     But the matrix.org server is too big and vector.im too. So Matrix as a company has a central position and will get notice of nearly all relationships and Communication. That‘s centralistic.

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     Jesper Zedlitz (jze@norden.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 03:16:11 JST Jesper Zedlitz

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     • ij
     • Metin Seven 🎨

     @ij @metin Matrix *is* decentralized. I run my own Matrix server for the family. My employer runs a Matrix server. Several universities run their own server. And we all can send each other messages without any difficulty.

     #matrix

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     ij (ij@nerdculture.de)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 03:16:13 JST ij

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     • Metin Seven 🎨

     @metin I wouldn't call Matrix decentralized.
     matrix.org/vector.im is just too strong within the network to have a decentralized network, IMHO. YMMV.

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     Metin Seven 🎨 (metin@graphics.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 03:16:14 JST Metin Seven 🎨

     • The Matrix.org Foundation
     • Session
     • Delta Chat
     • SimpleX Chat

     Signal is a secure messenger, but there are interesting alternatives, such as @matrix , @session , @delta , @simplex or XMPP …

     ➡️ https://matrix.org

     ➡️ https://getsession.org

     ➡️ https://delta.chat

     ➡️ https://simplex.chat

     ➡️ https://xmpp.org

     If you’d like to learn more about these options, have a look at the responses to this toot.

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