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    𝓻𝓻𝓪 (rra@post.lurk.org)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jan-2025 01:15:16 JST 𝓻𝓻𝓪 𝓻𝓻𝓪
    • Marta

    In light of US tech oligarchy setting its sights on Wikimedia Foundation, a historical detail I did not know before: #Wikipedia became the non-profit it is today partly as the result of a labour strike of Spanish Wikipedia editors who disagreed with the proposed inclusion of advertisements. Initially, it was not clear what revenue model Wikipedia would get, and Wales moved towards a for-profit model already a year after launch. However, rather than working for free, so Jimmy Wales could profit from their labour via advertising, Spanish contributors forked Spanish Wikipedia as the Encyclopedia Libre Universal. Under the threat of losing the editorial community of such a large language, Wales conceded and set up the non-profit.

    That is to say, however imperfect they are, all the digital commons we have are the result of ongoing struggle and hard work to keep them as commons.

    Via Las Redes Son Nuestras (https://www.consonni.org/es/publicaciones/las-redes-son-nuestras) by @teclista

    In conversation about 4 months ago from post.lurk.org permalink

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      Las redes son nuestras | consonni
      «Un libro necesario en tiempos de tecnofobia moralista e interesada. El espacio común de Internet, que nació generosamente libre, ha sido ocupado por unicornios monstruosos bajo la mirada cómplice del statu quo. Ha llegado el momento de recuperar lo que es de todxs. Alguien tenía que decirlo». —Simona Levi
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      Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jan-2025 01:36:39 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
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      • Steven Sandoval

      @rra @baltakatei

      In light of US tech oligarchy setting its sights on Wikimedia Foundation, a historical detail I did not know before

      Is this a recent development? :blobfoxdisgust:

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Herzleid (herzleid@wandering.shop)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jan-2025 02:20:43 JST Herzleid Herzleid
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      • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

      @tk They want to eliminate everything they cannot own & control. Musk et al. made some noise about Wiki before/around the US election and now it's intensifying. Any outlet that does not comply with the oligarchy's version of reality is under threat. 🤷

      (If you're asking about the "historical detail", OP is referring to the Spanish labour strike, not the tech oligarchs' ambitions.)

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      Steven Sandoval (baltakatei@twit.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jan-2025 02:23:22 JST Steven Sandoval Steven Sandoval
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      • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

      @tk @rra Looks like the Encyclopedia Libre Universal fork occurred back in 2002, with Wales's desire to create a for-profit encyclopedia being satisfied by his establishment of Wikicities (later renamed Wikia, then Fandom) in 2004.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enciclopedia_Libre_Universal_en_Espa%C3%B1ol

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website)

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      Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: and Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: like this.
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      𝓻𝓻𝓪 (rra@post.lurk.org)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jan-2025 08:27:15 JST 𝓻𝓻𝓪 𝓻𝓻𝓪
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      • Robert W. Gehl
      • __nate__
      • Marta

      Wow this struck a chord, it seems I was not the only one who was not aware of this story!

      Some additional info:

      @teclista shared that the protagonists are on the fedi as well (of course they are!):
      https://mas.to/@teclista/113872887620692513

      @__nate__ wrote about the episode in several papers (for example: https://networkcultures.org/cpov/2011/01/15/spanish_fork/) and also a book: https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/W/bo19085555.html

      @rwg also wrote about the episode in a book:
      https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt14bssk4.9

      "in the light of US tech oligarchy setting its sights on Wikimedia Foundation" was referring to things such as https://hachyderm.io/@molly0xfff/113868325221306547

      Finally, I don't have a soundcloud to promote, but I'd really like to see the first paid position for Trust & Safety on the fediverse get funded:
      https://givebutter.com/givingmastodon

      please chip in if you care about digital commons

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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        @rra@post.lurk.org I think @erchache2000@paquita.masto.host and @jdelacueva@mastodon.social would like to see this toot ;)
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        » ‘Good luck with your WikiPAIDia’: Reflections on the 2002 Fork of the Spanish Wikipedia
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        Molly White (@molly0xfff@hachyderm.io)
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        Attached: 4 images having succeeded in purchasing positions of influence inside the White House, the billionaires and tech VCs have now set their sights back on Wikipedia

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      Javier de la Cueva (jdelacueva@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jan-2025 22:12:04 JST Javier de la Cueva Javier de la Cueva
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      • Robert W. Gehl
      • __nate__
      • Marta

      @rra @teclista @__nate__ @rwg

      More references: Corsín and Estalella wrote a very good story describing our struggle for the commons: https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501767180/free-culture-and-the-city/#bookTabs=1

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        Free Culture and the City examines how and why free software spread beyond the world of hackers and software engineers and became the basis for an urban movement now heralded by scholars as a model...

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