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   scott f (scott@carfree.city)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 12:49:52 JST scott f

   • Elizabethcreely

   Less serious than the other crashes recently but ugh. Tesla's fake self-driving can't be trusted but seems likely our corrupt felon-in-chief coming in tomorrow will try to prevent regulators doing anything about it.

   @Elizabethcreely, glad you're safe and could give ML the tip
   https://sfba.social/@MLNow/113857812036377313

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     Philip Weiss (Phil in SF) (kingrat@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 12:49:48 JST Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)

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     • sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

     @sanae @scott California is two party consent. it would generally be illegal.

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     scott f (scott@carfree.city)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 12:49:50 JST scott f

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     • sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

     @sanae the argument would be there's no expectation of privacy in a public place, such as a sidewalk, but I'm not sure how cut-and-dried that is. One would at least hope the law would see recording everything all day every day as different from being able to overhear some things when you happen to be physically present.

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     sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF) (sanae@carfree.city)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 12:49:50 JST sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

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     @scott if you're on the phone, does it become illegal wiretapping? (Obviously I don't know anything about the law)

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     scott f (scott@carfree.city)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 12:49:51 JST scott f

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     Creepy that the Nest video just added to the article has sound. Business owners could be unaccountably eavesdropping on your conversations as you stand on the sidewalk, thinking no one else is around.

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     sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF) (sanae@carfree.city)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 12:49:51 JST sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

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     @scott I'm surprised that's legal

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     Philip Weiss (Phil in SF) (kingrat@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 13:06:58 JST Philip Weiss (Phil in SF)

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     • sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

     @scott @sanae I'm just answering the phone question. other places are way more complex.

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     scott f (scott@carfree.city)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 13:06:59 JST scott f

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     • sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

     @kingrat @sanae If the conversation is taking place in a private space, yes. The question is how that interacts with the "no expectation of privacy in a public space" thing. Do you have specific knowledge about this?