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   Austin* (austinha@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 11:11:16 JST Austin*

   • Evan Prodromou

   @evanprodromou @evan out of curiosity, what are the real implications of building on top of ATProto? how can there be “control” over the protocol? are you talking about consensus via standards bodies?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 11:11:15 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @austinha @evanprodromou no, I mean, there is a single relay operated by the Bluesky corporation, and they get to decide if your stuff goes through that relay or not.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 11:14:09 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @austinha that's not even talking about IP. The ATProto has not been standardized by a recognized standards body. Bluesky has not granted patent rights or trademark rights to anyone else to reimplement the protocol. They say they might standardize some parts of the stack some time, but they haven't yet.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 11:15:06 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Christine Lemmer-Webber

     @austinha @cwebber did a good analysis of the differences between ATProto and ActivityPub a few months back. If you are interested, you should look it up.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 11:17:25 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Christine Lemmer-Webber

     @austinha @cwebber people seem to think that this is an unfortunate misunderstanding, and that if these two communities of good faith just sit down and hammer out some details, we can all have a single protocol. That's not the case; it's one VC-funded startup against everyone else, Open Source, corporate, whatever. They don't use ActivityPub because they want a protocol they own and control.