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   LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 19:16:09 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

   Oh god...
   This is so much worse then I even imagined.

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     Coded Artist (coded_artist@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 20:05:12 JST Coded Artist

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     @LukeAlmighty Yeah...
     The field is a mess.
     "Treatments make more money than cures" is epitomized in psychiatry.

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     :meru_mewwuluv: b e a r d (beardalaxy@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 20:22:28 JST :meru_mewwuluv: b e a r d

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     @LukeAlmighty I thought it was pretty common knowledge that these sorts of things don't really get cured. The idea is to give you the tools to deal with them. Whether or not therapists actually do that in a healthy way or not is up for debate. I think that therapy is often something that pushes people into something more like complacency than actually working towards bettering themselves. Someone like a life coach does a much better job with that but they're also a lot more dedicated.

     These days, I would expect the number of "cures" to be higher though, because a lot of people go to the therapist when they're in a rough patch and need someone to talk to. Therapy is a lot more common. In 2006, it's more likely that you were only in therapy because you really did have a permanent mental illness. Just my guess.

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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 20:43:55 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @druid @beardalaxy
     If you need to change definition of cured to get a non-zero success rate, I think the issue isn't the definition.

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     Druid (druid@shrine.moe)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 20:43:56 JST Druid

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     @beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty Psychiatrists are most commonly differentiated by their ability to prescribe medications, the therapy you're talking about here is more like counselling...
     
     But what that second to last guy in the video said is true, the problem here is how we quantify "cured."
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     Mr.NutterButter (mr_nutterbutter@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 21:28:18 JST Mr.NutterButter

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     @LukeAlmighty honestly I thought therapy was more about just giving you the tools to deal with it I don't think I've ever heard someone say that they've ever gotten cured of a mental thing.

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     Gabe (gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 07:18:13 JST Gabe

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     Surely they've gotten so much better since then! :trollface:

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     Vo (vo@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 07:19:30 JST Vo

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     @Mr_NutterButter @LukeAlmighty
     My doc seriously recommended I get electro-convulsive therapy (modern-day shock treatment) so I promptly quit seeing him, ditched the meds, and explored psychedelics instead.

     The therapist who taught me cognitive-behavioral therapy (who had also told me I "wanted" to be depressed) did more than that quack ever did.

     But I wouldn't say either of them "cured" me. Neither did the shrooms, but combined with CBT and meditation they easily beat the pants off any SSRI!

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     kuteboiCoder (kuteboicoder@subs4social.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 07:35:34 JST kuteboiCoder

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     @LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
     
     The last guy in the video was totally blunt, a bit self deprecating and kinda relatable. Maybe I'd like to meet him over billiards and whine a bit about my childhood and upbringing 🥂

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     Special Guest Star (s2208@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 20:32:00 JST Special Guest Star

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     I’m a shrink. we don’t cure people. we help them cope with living in hell on earth, but we don’t cure them.
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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 20:32:00 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @s2208
     Well, are they sick though? Because as far as I understand, the entire field does treat these adaptations as illneses.

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     Special Guest Star (s2208@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 02:11:46 JST Special Guest Star

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     I have to label people for the purposes of insurance, but most of them are just interesting and cool in their own way
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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 02:11:46 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @s2208
     BTW, for full transparency:
     My experience with shrinks was, that they almost ruined my life several times already.

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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 11:22:35 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @s2208
     Ok... I just have to ask.
     What kind of problems would an autistic kid have to show, so you could feel confident saying, that "it will be lucky, if it manages to finish a special school"?

     Just wondering... I get the part, where many shrinks give autistic kids meth, but that sentence seriously does stick in my head to this day.