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   clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 11:31:57 JST clacke
   Discovered a new (for me) type of antisemite who claims that Jews do not have Hebrews as ancestors.
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 11:31:55 JST Christmas Sun

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     @clacke khazar hypothesis has been around since like the 1800s. there is also christian identity movement from I think the 60s that thinks white people are the original jews
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 11:33:32 JST Christmas Sun

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     • Christmas Sun
     @clacke oh also the black israelites from the 1970s I think? think that blacks are the real jews.
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 11:41:46 JST Christmas Sun

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     @clacke they believe jews are still and always jews, they just believe that all mormons have a spiritual hebrew tribe. you get a special blessing where the patriarch of your church tells you which tribe you have. Most are Manasseh but occasionally someone gets a different tribe. An interesting fact about this is that Jews descended from temple tribes like Levi have a theoretical claim to participation in Mormon temples.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 11:41:47 JST clacke

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     • Christmas Sun
     @sun And then we have, of course, Joseph Smith.
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 11:55:08 JST Christmas Sun

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     • ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡
     @toiletpaper @clacke white people are descended from pleiadian aliens, yes
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     ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 11:55:09 JST ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡

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     @sun @clacke
     
     Meanwhile, white people... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_aliens
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 18:21:29 JST clacke

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     • Thomas Magnum

     @Leyonhjelm Everyone has a bit of everything, it's been a somewhat global world for over two millennia.

     But when people claim that an ethnicity is basically made up and has no historical continuity, the people making the claim have a lot to prove when it's an unusually coherent community that has been kept together by themselves and by outside persecuters, and when there's physical evidence like the "Cohen" gene.

     The only two motivations I can see behind a claim like that are antisemitism and motivated ignorance, which is just antisemitism with extra steps.

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     Thomas Magnum (leyonhjelm@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 18:21:30 JST Thomas Magnum

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     I didn’t know you had to be an anti semite to doubt such historical claims. Or at least to doubt they’re any more Hebrew than the ones who did not reject Christ and became Christians. After several thousand years, it’s hard to imagine there isn’t a few drops of Jacob’s blood in most of Europe’s population
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 18:21:45 JST clacke

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     • Thomas Magnum
     @Leyonhjelm The person making the claim was clearly invested and would have looked for information if they were interested in the truth.
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     Thomas Magnum (leyonhjelm@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 18:21:46 JST Thomas Magnum

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     @clacke
     
     I’m not that invested in the topic, I just think jumping to assumptions is lazy. Whether assumptions of motivation or assumptions of historic validity.
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     Thomas Magnum (leyonhjelm@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 18:22:32 JST Thomas Magnum

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     @clacke
     
     You are welcome to believe so. This being the internet, I doubt most people’s investment beyond getting a reaction.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 18:22:32 JST clacke

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     • Thomas Magnum
     @Leyonhjelm If they were just LARPing as an antisemite, that's no better either.
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     Thomas Magnum (leyonhjelm@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 00:14:41 JST Thomas Magnum

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     I don’t care whether someone is an antisemite or not. I’m more bothered by censorship and German-style persecution of free speech.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 00:14:41 JST clacke

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     • Thomas Magnum

     @Leyonhjelm That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about yet another pattern and aspect of a centuries-long harassment campaign against a people for no reason other than to create an enemy to rally people against.

     But I guess we're not going to agree on this being morally abhorrent and worth pointing out when we see it.

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     Thomas Magnum (leyonhjelm@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 00:16:05 JST Thomas Magnum

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     > for no reason
     
     You’re not even trying now
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 00:16:05 JST clacke

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     • Thomas Magnum

     @Leyonhjelm Ok, I'm out, that's my generous assumption of good faith eroded.

     I apologize to myself for wasting my time.

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