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   Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 18:51:53 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
   @lucretia
   
   > I also don't really see how blocking nazi instances is a slippery slope. Seems pretty level ground to me.
   
   Because even left-wing feminists and gay rights activists are "nazis" now. Not to mention centrists and center-right people, who I may disagree with, but I don't think it's morally acceptable or even politically useful to oppress them by constantly slurring them as "nazis" and censoring them.
   
   > Seems like you're keen to defend transphobes because, having reviewed your profile, you are one.
   
   Indeed, as someone who feels very strongly about universal human rights and dignity, I am necessarily transphobic, and proudly so.
   
   I would urge you to become one as well, if you care about women's rights, gay rights, science, and evidence-based health care.
   
   It's ultimately better even for the human rights of people identifying as transgender, since tyrannical movements built upon the oppression of others always ultimately fail, and then cause the spread of a blanket hostility towards demographics associated with it.
   
   See the recent rise in negative sentiments towards trans people despite the enormous political power the transgender movement has. It's an empty shell of a human rights movement that is wrecking its way through the modern world, and most people have had enough of it.
   
   The same phenomenon can be seen in the Islamism vs. Islamophobia debate. Tarring anyone who's concerned with political Islam or Islamism as an "Islamophobe" does more harm than good. Moderate Muslims, like the ones I grew up with in Turkey, tend to agree that Islamism is a huge threat, and needs to be fought. This is why Turkey banned all religious symbols in schools and government institutions, including for example the Hijab, immediately when the secular Turkish republic was founded. It was a boon to Turkish women's rights and dignity that *not* wearing the Hijab was completely normalized through this measure.
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 19:53:55 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     @purusa @lucretia
     
     1. Canada passed self-ID laws and the Trudeau government otherwise licked trans activist ass for years.
     
     2. The Obama and Biden administrations supported the transgender movement, with Biden appointing a weird "non-binary" fetishist stealing women's clothes as the head of nuclear or something, and made an ideologically zealous transwoman the head of the health department; said transwoman proceeded to collude with activist organizations like WPATH to push medical treatments for minors that aren't backed by evidence.
     
     3. The Theresa May government was going to pass self-ID and only backed off because a huge number of feminists started campaigning against it. The resistance from women's rights and gay rights activists in the UK to this madness has been exemplary, but their fight still isn't over.
     
     4. Germany is presently ruled by a coalition of three parties that all support the transgender movement, and self-ID got into effect last November.
     
     5. Spain passed self-ID last year if I remember correctly. France even earlier if I'm not mistaken.
     
     6. University professors are being fired or bullied off of campus by activists left and right, and the administration isn't doing anything against it.
     
     Do I need to go on? This is just random stuff off the top of my head. Liberal men LOVE the transgender movement, because it essentially operates as a wing of the broader men's sexual rights movement. Autogynephiles are steering the boat.
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     पुरुष - germ primieval (purusa@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 19:53:56 JST पुरुष - germ primieval

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     @taylan @lucretia
     
     > the enormous political power the transgender movement has
     
     What alternative dimension do you live in? Do you think that trans people are like lizards aliens or something?
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     Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 20:03:54 JST Yuchen Pei

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     @taylan
     Don't forget this one too
     @lucretia @purusa
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     Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 20:13:27 JST Yuchen Pei

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     • पुरुष - germ primieval
     @purusa
     Where do balls come from when changing from female to male?
     @taylan
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     पुरुष - germ primieval (purusa@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 20:13:28 JST पुरुष - germ primieval

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     @quasi @taylan
     
     i mean, it's a fact, you can surgically remove your penis and get a vagina, or vice versa, take hormones etc. and after a few years you can't even tell the difference, I've changed my sex 5 times already
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 20:20:57 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     • पुरुष - germ primieval
     @purusa @quasi
     
     You cannot "get a vagina." There is no medical technology that can do that as of now, and it's extremely unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future.
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 20:22:01 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     • पुरुष - germ primieval
     @purusa @lucretia
     
     The transgender movement isn't going to provide you with any of those things. That's the problem.
     
     It sounds like you need a better economy and government, not hormone treatment or the ability to bully and ostracize people for having a minor disagreement with you.
     
     > what difference does self-ID make?
     
     Women getting raped in prison because a rapist said "lol I'm a woman now" and signed a piece of paper that makes him so under the law so he had to be transferred to a women's prison.
     
     Yes, this actually happened multiple times already. (Sometimes it happens even though the law doesn't require it, because the people in charge decide to be "ahead of the law" in how progressive they are.)
     
     That's just one extreme example. There's tons of ways in which it hurts women's rights and gay rights. Listen to the so-called "TERFs" and you'll learn.
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     पुरुष - germ primieval (purusa@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 20:22:03 JST पुरुष - germ primieval

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     @taylan @lucretia
     
     you are so fucking brainwashed, who cares? why do you give a shit? why does someone "Self ID" make any different to your life?
     
     i'm more worried about
     
     1. not being able to afford to eat
     2. not being able to pay for rent
     3. not being able to afford healthcare, 4. Not being able to spend time with my loved ones because i have to work on the time to pay for basic necessities
     5. Not being able to access clean drinking water because they've done away with all regulations and are just dumping toxic chemicals in the water
     6. The Planet becoming unlivable because they're accelerating fossil fuel emissions
     
     Do I need to go on? This is just random stuff off the top of my head. This anti trans shit is just bat shit paranoid hysteria to prevent people from addressing who is really "Steering the Boat" which are the Capitalists and Politicians like Trump and Elon Musk or Zuckerberg or Bezos, all of which don't give a fuck about trans rights
     
     You are a tool for the ruling class spreading delusions to keep the masses confused, the internet really fried your brain bub, you're cooked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtIXxpX3qnQ
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 20:32:49 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     • पुरुष - germ primieval
     @purusa @lucretia
     
     Oh, I assumed you were trans and implying those things are related. (Like workplace discrimination against trans people, which is a real thing in some places of course.)
     
     Well you should oppose it because it's not like cancer treatment for kids it's more like giving kids cancer. It may not wreck your life but it wrecks the lives of others.
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     पुरुष - germ primieval (purusa@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 20:32:50 JST पुरुष - germ primieval

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     @taylan @lucretia
     
     of course it isn't, just like giving kids with cancer cancer treatment wouldn't help me personally, but why would I oppose it?